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Saiyan/human hybrids ve universe 6 saiyans
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superperfectnerd	Jul 2 2017, 02:04 AM Post #1
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Who has greater potential? Cabba, Caulifla and Kale versus Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Bra Uni 6 saiyans are seemingly green but god tier. The two base theory kind of works but it seems unlikely to me that Toriyama or the writers would have two versions of Goku and Vegeta's base with no visual indication or statements by characters. I don't see why everyone still blabs on about Gohan's potential when Goten and Trunks came along and achieved power far greater than his at the same age with far less experience. It's not like they've actually attempted to train the two boys on to the same level as they are attempting with Gohan to see how they stack up, just assuming Gohan s stronger because his power is hidden. Then there's this; "The tailless second generation are super ultra child prodigies. Saiyan genes have an extraordinarily good compatibility with Earthling blood. Because of this, when the two races are mixed together children with formidable power are born. Particularly, those Halflings born without tails hide an exceptional battle power. There are many things that they naturally master from a young age, such as the ordinarily arduous transformation into a Super Saiyan. In spite of having such an outstanding battle sense, they do not have a fondness for battle like a pure Saiyan. Instead, it seems that the violent temperament of the Saiyan has been relaxed through their Earthling blood." - Daizenshuu 4 It seems the uni 6 saiyans may have cross bred with others or simply evolved differently to be basically more like Goten and Trunks. My money would be on uni 6 from all we've seen. Edited by superperfectnerd, Jul 2 2017, 02:04 AM.



+ Son-Goku	Jul 2 2017, 02:18 AM Post #2
孫悟空 Posts: 13,358 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Yeah, imo Gohan is far from the one with the greatest potential. First it'd go to the Universe 6 saiyans. Their powers are immense and what kind of battles have they been through? Not too intense seeing as how they had never even attained Super Saiyan. Not that that part matters anyway, Cabba is a normal saiyan and was fighting even with base Vegeta who had training from Whis. The Universe 6 saiyans definitely have the most potential. Next I would say Goten, the only training the kid had was from Chi Chi who most likely taught him only the basics. There's no way she's the reason he's at such a high level, it took Gohan years of training to be at that kind of level. While Goten was simply born with the talent, he has far more potential than Gohan imo. As for Trunks, he got training from Vegeta probably about the same age as when Gohan was trained. Trunks even probably has more potential than Gohan even though he got training Vegeta to get that level. Potential: Universe 6 Saiyans>Goten>Trunks>=Gohan>Universe 7 Full-Blooded Saiyans
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superperfectnerd	Jul 2 2017, 02:55 AM Post #3
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	I also think Goten probably has the most potential but mainly because Chi Chi > Bulma, not Goku > Vegeta. Kale > Caulifla > Cabba > Goten > Trunks > Gohan > Vegeta > Goku In terms of raw potential. Of course Goku comes out on top because of his attitude. He's got the perfect mindset to maximise his saiyan potential. Vegeta says so whilst he's beating Black, "only a true numbskull like him can utilise saiyan cells to their fullest".



+ Ssj3vegito96	Jul 6 2017, 06:40 PM Post #4
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Unlike goten and trunks, U6 saiyans evolved to be the way they are. So naturally they're just all around better. Simple as that Yeah goten and trunks are tailless hybrid prodigies but they're still from goku and vegeta. Cabba's parents were probably really strong compared to goku and vegeta too. U6 saiyans have the better potential Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Jul 6 2017, 06:41 PM.
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superperfectnerd	Jul 6 2017, 11:27 PM Post #5
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Champa really should have gotten Vados to train them at the end of the uni 6 tournament. Frost as well. Edited by superperfectnerd, Jul 6 2017, 11:29 PM.



Thiln	Jul 10 2017, 03:41 AM Post #6
Posts: 2,481 Group: Member Member #12,166 Joined: March 23, 2015 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Attack on Titan What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Hokuto no Ken, Berserk, Dragon Ball, Rurouni Kenshin, Attack on Titan, Kuroshitsuji	Cabba and his assortment of Saiyans were collaborating with Frost for the longest time to quell menaces on planets. With all of the potential Freeza seems to possess, it wouldn't surprise me if Frost turned out to be another "mutant"; and it just so happens that Frost is the U6 iteration of Freeza. I have little doubt that Frost and Cabba may have sparred on occasion. It would explain why his power is so inordinately high. Caulifla and Kale have no explanation, however, unless they partook in fighting characters on the same scale as Frost. Now for the Earth Saiyan hybrids, Goten regularly sparred with Trunks, who so happened to be conscripted into Vegeta's training regimen of gravity training up multiplied up into the hundreds. My suspicion is that Goten acquired the largest majority of his power from these sparring sessions with Trunks. You could say Goten was a benefactor of the Vegeta proctored training regimen in a roundabout manner through his combat interactions with Trunks. Gohan wasn't afforded such advantages during his childhood. But by the time he was four, he had already surpassed the strongest fighters on the planet at the time with his strongest power emission. Both Goten and Trunks can't boast for having accomplished such a feat.



superperfectnerd	Jul 10 2017, 01:34 PM Post #7
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	True but what about the guidebook stating tailless hybrids > tailed hybrids?



Thiln	Jul 10 2017, 02:12 PM Post #8
Posts: 2,481 Group: Member Member #12,166 Joined: March 23, 2015 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Attack on Titan What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Hokuto no Ken, Berserk, Dragon Ball, Rurouni Kenshin, Attack on Titan, Kuroshitsuji	Were Goten and Trunks tailless from birth? We know Trunks was stagnantly outpaced by his father after having gone into the RoSaT. You would think a hybrid who might have incorporated the lessons of transformational acclimatisation would have surpassed his father after giving it his all to increase his strength as much as possible. It seems weird that Gohan could surpass his father so easily yet Trunks is unable to replicate those results during the one occasion where he and Vegeta were training at the same time. Plus, they happened to be relatively close in power so the competitive barrier shouldn't have been too difficult to overcome; not like it was for Gohan.



superperfectnerd	Jul 10 2017, 04:28 PM Post #9
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	The quote from Daizenshuu 4 is specifically about Goten and Trunks. Maybe Future Trunks and Present Trunks are slightly different and Future Trunks was born with a tail or something...unlikely though. It's like I said before though, potential matters little compared to effort and attitude. Goku has the least potential but comes out on top time and time again, a bit like Solid Snake compared to his clones and Big Boss. Vegeta would be too proud to want Trunks' help in the ROSAT and Cell pointed out that in terms of experience Trunks is very green, that probably transfers to training as well. Trunks trained alone and also less effectively than his father and came out basically his equal. Gohan had constant guidance from the saiyan with the most masters and formal training experience of anyone in the series. Goku also knew when to rest and to take it slow at first with fpssj. Trunks and Vegeta only sensed 50% of Goku's full power and probably thought themselves still better off with the assj boost after getting stronger than what they assumed was Goku's max. Recently in his return to Super Future Trunks showed off vast gains which had put Cell Games Gohan to shame, he matched Goku in base and ssj2 and then formed his own rage induced transformation, seemingly surpassing ssj blue. He then learnt the Mafuba in five minutes and performed a spirit bomb on instinct, absorbing it into his body and slicing an opponent relative to ssjb Vegetto in half. It's also worth mentioning that in no canon appearance has Goku ever absorbed his spirit bomb like that.



+ Ssj3vegito96	Jul 10 2017, 04:41 PM Post #10
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	I didn't think about it that way. No wonder why future trunks was so hax in Super lol that explains a lot. Not the random power increases but the feats for sure When it comes to U6 saiyans I think it's as simple as what the manga implies. The manga implies they've all evolves further than U7 saiyans. I think it's safe to apply that to the anime Future trunks did some amazing stuff in Super like superperfectnerd mentioned. Caulifla turned ssj2 a day after she turned ssj1 and idk even know how or if she knows there are ascended versions of ssj Would you guys say Caulifla's feat is the most impressive? Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Jul 10 2017, 04:44 PM.
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superperfectnerd	Jul 10 2017, 04:47 PM Post #11
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Caulifla is confident and sassy and her personality lends to her power whereas Kale is riddled with self-doubt but seemingly has monstrous hidden power.



superperfectnerd	Jul 13 2017, 03:52 AM Post #12
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	It's also funny that Vegeta had that whole low level vs elite thing, which Goku already proved didn't really matter much in the grand scheme but now there are these saiyans that make the 'super elite' of universe 7 laughably weak.



StrenuousSpider	Jul 13 2017, 04:01 AM Post #13
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	To me U6 sayains are more human like. what made half breeds so powerful was the human emotions which U6 all ready have plus being full blood sayains. So they should have more potential.



+ Ssj3vegito96	Jul 13 2017, 05:48 AM Post #14
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Yeah they do seem more human like which is important because goten and trunks are more powerful and talented than goku and vegeta since they're hybrids. Goten and trunks and cabbe are similar. Tailless, more human like, really powerful and talented. I think goten and trunks and the U6 saiyans have the same potential. They weren't born with tails and they have more of a human like personality. It's just that all U6 saiyans evolved to be that way. Goten and trunks are just genetic freaks. On paper they're the same and they both have similar insane feats Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Jul 13 2017, 05:51 AM.
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superperfectnerd	Jul 13 2017, 09:57 AM Post #15
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Goten and Trunks aren't in Cabba's league. The way I see it Cabba and the saiyans from universe 6 who protect the universe must have been in intense battles but they always had Frost fighting if things got out of hand, plus if they sparred with each other and Frost they'd rapidly improve, like when somebody spars with somebody more powerful in uni 7, Piccolo's gains in the three years training for the androids for example and his recent gains training with Gohan. Then these saiyans took what they learnt and trained others on planet Sadal, like Renso training Caulifla. This is also why Frost is stronger than Namek Freeza, he wasn't necessarily challenged in battle but he might spar a bit and he does his own fighting to eep up his hero guise. Freeza just sat around in his bubble car and let his men fight for him. Considering their potential Frost was able to get very strong from his 'heroics'. Look at Freeza's gains just from image training. Universe 7 actually despite they're intense battles have not actually spent a lot of time training at their best when you think about it. The saiyans are kind of lone wolf and want to keep power for themselves. Goku and Vegeta's rivalry allegedly pushes them but they didn't actually train together, they both train alone without a comparable sparring partner, then look at Vegeta's gains as soon as he had an immensely strong sparring partner in Whis and also Goku. The uni 6 saiyans may not have been desperate enough to become ssj but they don't have pride holding them back, they get along and push each other in sparring, rather than training in secret with King Kai or a gravity room trying to out do each other. As soon as Goku and Vegeta started training together their gains went through the roof. Edited by superperfectnerd, Jul 13 2017, 10:03 AM.



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