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Wonder Woman
Topic Started: Jun 1 2017, 08:24 PM (640 Views)
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Just saw it today and I was impressed, it was very good. I've been disappointed in the last couple DC movies, but they finally gave us something good. Let's just hope the next movies can do as good as this one did, I might even say that this is the best DC movie they've made yet.
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Saw alot of positive reviews for this film, especially Gal Gadot's portrayal. Who knew she'd be make it this far when she was one of Dom's team mate in F&F franchise?

I usually dont watch female-centric flicks cuz they fall usually under these categories:

1. They're either horror films with horrendrous screamings & shouts. For some reason, director/producers always cast womans predominantly cuz maybe they can shriek well?

2. "Bay" kinda films. Y'know, Michael Bay or even recent "BAYwatch" with boobies jiggling around 99% of run-time

3. Wannabe educational, motivational, preach abt "woman power" with bombastic lines absolutely no subtlety/nuances

Guess Wonder Woman kinda redefines the genre
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I kind of agree with Pel here, the whole movie is quite good until the end. It's still enjoyable but once Ares shows up, things get really cheesy really fast. It's a shame because the rest of the movie is fine. It doesn't help that Ares looks like a joke. I get the idea they want to express him as this weak, feeble character who is in fact just wicked and make some contrast with the person who we thought was the true villain but it doesn't work.

The "surprise" comes too out of left field and when we get our "true" villain, you honestly see just a salary man with a light show and far less an all powerful Greek God of destruction. Again, despite this setback, a fine movie and it goes to show what can happen when you don't shove 10 different subplots like Batman v Superman.
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Just saw it. Thought it was slightly overrated at least until the end fight scene but it was still pretty good. I liked ares but he does kinda look funny with the mustache lol. He's supposed to look weak and deceptive but I get how some people can't take it seriously
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Crap. Just crap.

All those glowing reviews for THIS?!!!!

Its substandard film at best. Promising start. Dog s*** middle. Somewhat OK end

Gal Gadot was good. Dats abt it

Guess I expected more. The scope & scale of the film is small plus the whole war-setting didnt do it for me

I thought it'd be fantasy based like Clash of the Titans or futuristic as BvS/Avengers alas, its stuck between

The climax fight & its pounding BGM is the only high point in an otherwise boring film

Ares dude is just.....nothing to praise except his lines to which the credit goes to dialogue writers

Diana's too naive/innocent as well. I get she wants to squash Ares, but you dont go around battle-field, village, gala dance, Army HQ with da same goddamn theory "Ares manipulated their minds so I gotta squash Ares"

This movie lacks a powerful antagonist who could stand up to WW (not appearing at last 10 min of the film), likable side-kicks, humor etc

I might say its a very dry film. Honestly, started thinkin if all those postitive verdicts were paid reviews

If THIS is considered as best DC film, never gonna bother a DC film ever again
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Honestly, I really disliked this movie. It worked when Wonderwomen and Steve were both on screen, but almost like magic it would completely collapse without them.
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Just seen the movie and I really liked it, I much prefer Man of Steel and the action in BvS was way more satisfying but overall I'd say it's definitely at least the second best DCEU movie.


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If I was to re-write it I'd make the change I stated above and I'd remove Ares almost entirely, replace him with some monster thing someone could transform in to. Ludendorff obviously.
Ares should have been hinted at but then should have been the antagonist for Wonder Woman 2, much more of him could have been on display there.


I definitely feel like the film is over rated but it's also a massive improvement from Suicide Squid...(squid, really Steve) and the production was WAYYY better than BvS of course.
If every DC movie from now on is put together this well then they'll be right on track.

Still worried for Justice League personally. So many characters and only one movie to detail them in...

There should have been MoS, a solo Batman movie, Suicide Squad(pretend it was well done), BvS, Wonder Woman and then Justice League.
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Haven't seen the WW movie yet, but honestly, @Steve, DC should've taken their time.

The entire league should've gotten their own movies (Wonder Woman first, because chronologically speaking, it'd make sense, then Supes because who else. It doesn't necessarily have to be in order, Iron Man is far from the first Marvel hero and he got the first on the MCU side)? One JL movie isn't enough for so many characters. Also, SS should go somewhere after BvS, the whole point was to recruit dudes with the abilities to take on kryptonian-level beings, but if we go by how Taskforce X originally was, you could just place it anywhere really, it's just The Expendables with supervillains.
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They've definitely went too fast but I'm not sure each character needs a whole movie to introduce them first, many of them haven't been on the big screen at all so introducing them gradually is good I'd say.

Guess it's a good thing that JL Part I won't be the whole Justice League.

I just hope JL introduces Aquaman, The Flash and Cyborg in similar fashion to how Black Panther was introduced to the MCU.



Though to be honest they'll be getting their own movies so I hope not too much time is dedicated to them and instead...give the villain time to shine for Gods sake!
Still a consistent flaw in comic book movies, the villain is almost always there just to be the bad guy to get stomped. So few of them get decent development, sometimes no development at all.
I don't expect that to change but it'd be so cool if they did it, at least do it with Darkseid. Dude better not show up in the last 10 minutes of JL Part II.
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Jun 9 2017, 07:44 PM
It's still enjoyable but once Ares shows up, things get really cheesy really fast.


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Props to Patty Jenkins for bothering to make an actual live-action superhero movie, something I haven't truly seen ever since the MCU started. Taking things too seriously has been a problem for a while for the comic book genre but this movie felt natural. It didn't try to add any dumb jokes for the kiddies, it treated its plot maturely.

Ares was built up as this huge unknown threat, one that the audience could never really tell if it existed or not, only to be more surprising for the fans when it was actually him, with the actual damn costume. Yet another gripe with superhero movies where they barely ever get it right, and did it very well here.

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There was room for improvement, that's for sure (I miss the cape), but I think they did a decent enough job to solidify him as one of Wonder Woman's most dangerous adversaries, since in this movie he was almost a mix between Fox's Magneto and DCEU Zod.

The rest of the characters were better than I expected. Trevor's secretary was fun, the Amazonians were pretty cool, Dr Poison was a bit creepy (though he could've been MUCH creepier, given how she is in the comics, both the original and her grandchild)...

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I bought Steve and Diana's romance, it was cute and believable, and I legitimately felt bad when Trevor died, something I wasn't expecting because normally I don't care about Steve, but they made him pretty charismatic in this movie. I mean, he always was, but he wasn't as witty here. Diana herself was great, the only actual complaint I could give is that Gal Gadot needs to beef herself up a bit. :rofl:

But yeah, I really, really enjoyed this movie. I hope Lynda Carter did aswell.
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Jul 16 2017, 09:41 PM
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Gee, no need to get personal.


Yeah honestly I almost shed a manly tear at the end, I was sitting like "Wait what why am I sad!?" movies almost never make me feel like that unless the dog of the movie dies.

It was so well done too, I was against there being a love story because I thought that kinda takes away from the whole strong independent woman thing but they never made her a damsel in distress, just a fish out of water and quite reasonably so.


I've never seen anything Patty has directed before but hopefully she does more of these. The action could be more satisfying but everything else was great.
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I'll give you that one. That wasn't bad.
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