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Golden frieza
Topic Started: May 30 2017, 06:04 PM (1,350 Views)
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In the manga version of super WHiss mentined that when goku and vegeta use the ssjb they can reach its full potential but only for a short time

Goku mastered the form and he can now maintain that max potential for a longer period of time


But .... as frieza was considerably stronger than ssjblue goku even when his power was max.


Would that put frieza above super saiyan blue (full power goku)?
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Do you have any screenshots because I don't remember this. Sorry but the way you're writing is a little hard to understand too.

All I remember is that goku and vegeta were sparring and they used ssjb when they weren't supposed to whis said something like even though they can turn ssjb they still need a lot of improvement.

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Ch. 5, pg. 9.6
Context: Whis is scolding Goku and Vegeta for transforming in their fight
Whis: “Aren’t you being a little too cocky just because you defeated Golden Freeza?”

Ch. 5, pg. 9.7
Narrator: “There was an incident recently where Freeza, the emperor of terror who once threatened to destroy the universe, was resurrected and went to attack the Earth… After meeting Beerus, Goku and Vegeta went to Whis for training. Their strength evolved into a power that surpassed even god—Super Saiyan Blue! Thanks to that, they were able to defeat the resurrected Freeza…”


With ssjb they were able to beat Frieza. That's all we know for sure




Off topic but I wonder if this 100% stuff explains changes with the aura. The first couple chapters with ssjb it didn't have those energy things in the aura. Then it did. Then at 100% the aura was gone
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May 30 2017, 06:46 PM
Do you have any screenshots because I don't remember this. Sorry but the way you're writing is a little hard to understand too.

All I remember is that goku and vegeta were sparring and they used ssjb when they weren't supposed to whis said something like even though they can turn ssjb they still need a lot of improvement.

And this

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Ch. 5, pg. 9.6
Context: Whis is scolding Goku and Vegeta for transforming in their fight
Whis: “Aren’t you being a little too cocky just because you defeated Golden Freeza?”

Ch. 5, pg. 9.7
Narrator: “There was an incident recently where Freeza, the emperor of terror who once threatened to destroy the universe, was resurrected and went to attack the Earth… After meeting Beerus, Goku and Vegeta went to Whis for training. Their strength evolved into a power that surpassed even god—Super Saiyan Blue! Thanks to that, they were able to defeat the resurrected Freeza…”


With ssjb they were able to beat Frieza. That's all we know for sure




Off topic but I wonder if this 100% stuff explains changes with the aura. The first couple chapters with ssjb it didn't have those energy things in the aura. Then it did. Then at 100% the aura was gone
Sorry . I have been learning German for a couple of months so thats why I write a bit odd sentences...


I meant this latest chapter .... and i think someone mentioned that the full power of ssjb can be accessed when they transform but than it decreases. I mean thats what vegeta used when he switched on and off from ssjgod to ssjb. He couldnt maintain that max power only for a burst right?


In the latest chapter goku mastered the form so that he can maintain that "full power state" longer than they could before




Am i right?




And as for Frieza. Frieza had no problem wrecking the two ssjb when he was at full power which might also imply that his golden state was in fact above that of a full power supersaiyanblue,

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I think I understand what you're saying. You're saying if golden Frieza was stronger than ssjb like in the anime and movie then that means 100% ssjb is weaker than Frieza.

No. It doesn't mean anything. 100% of ssjb doesn't last long at all. Vegeta needed to use it for literally a split second to make use out of its true power. Any longer and it starts to decrease very fast. It probably decreased extremely fast against Frieza because they didn't have a lot of experience with it since they had just achieved the form.

Don't quote me on this but I think in either chapter 5 or 6 when goku and vegeta are sparring and they turn ssjb whis stops them and says they aren't allowed to use it. He says even though they beat golden Frieza they still have a lot of room to improve. So I really doubt Frieza was stronger than 100% ssjb
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SSJB Full Power was never actually created during ROF Manga, and for most of the Black Arc considering how much of it, it contradicts. So, Golden Form aint' more powerful than it. Or maybe that's a retcon and now his form is more powerful than Full Power SSJB.
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