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| Just how well know is Dragon Ball/Z to the general public? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 29 2017, 07:19 PM (1,052 Views) | |
| DBZAOTA482 | May 29 2017, 07:19 PM Post #1 |
 
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I like to believe it's still big with the average folks but I'm not sure. I don't go out of my way to talk to people about it. Does anyone else know? |
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| EMIYA | May 29 2017, 08:42 PM Post #2 |
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I'm pretty sure everyone and their grandmother knows what the series is, but I have a strong feeling only a select few have any idea of the more distinctive knowledge on the series. Outside a DBZ related place, you'll probably be hard pressed to find many people who now anything about, say the original manga, or original Japanese quotes. You'll find people who have obviously seen the English Dubs, be they Kai or original Funimation. You could go to a random person and ask them what Dragon Ball Z is and they'd probably say. "Ah yes! That crazy cartoon with a lot of screaming and fighting, I love that. That was my childhood." However, if you asked them something like... "Which Daizenshuu volume did they talk about the movies?" They'd look at you like you were stupid or something. |
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| + Emmeth | May 29 2017, 11:26 PM Post #3 |
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Pretty much what Brofist said. I do see more and more Dragonball Z on Twitter and on Facebook though, which I think is positive. Outside of "that fighting anime" and "It's over 9000!!!", I don't think most would know much about the show generally. |
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| + Son-Goku | May 30 2017, 01:50 AM Post #4 |
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Definitely most people know what DBZ is. I've met many people who can only name a couple anime and usually DBZ is one of them, along with Pokemon and Yugioh usually. I have encountered some people though that have no idea, but overall I'd say it's pretty common knowledge. |
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| Darker | May 31 2017, 12:03 AM Post #5 |
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Not like I wanted to bring this up, but you called me ignorant for not knowing that Dragon Ball was, and according to you, a pop culture icon (and the only thing you proved back then was that it was a pop culture icon for Japan). ...And now you're asking this?  Many countries either had terrible dubs and soon forgot about it or never had it airing there. DBS hasn't exactly been very well recieved, and the movies seem to have mostly been well recieved in the english speaking countries, where DBZ was at its most popular besides its home country. It was quite popular over here in Spain, just as much as any anime from its time or around that era where we got most stuff at once (60s-90s) but nowadays? It's barely even acknowledged when speaking about anime in some forums, mostly a memory, similar to what EMIYA and Emmeth said. |
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| Billa | May 31 2017, 06:00 AM Post #6 |
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Ask about DBZ to 5 week fetus inside the moms womb & it will anwer "hell yeah, its a kickass anime" Sure GT, Kai, Super have been absymal offerings & most mainstream viewers have been switching to much better shows But DBZ, along with Pokemon & Sailormoon & even Doraemon is right up there as all time classic Perhaps elderly citizens above 70 maynot have heard of DBZ. But its clearly household anime name in most Asean & European countries. It was a beast during its time (tv ratings, dvd & manga sales, merchandise profits & overall frenzy it had among kids/preteens is on whole different league. Unrivalled by ANY shounen of past, present or future |
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| DBZAOTA482 | May 31 2017, 02:37 PM Post #7 |
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I kinda brainfarted there... but yeah I'd still call you ignorant. I mean, it's still referenced constantly in the media (a fairly recent one is the kid's show Gumball paying homage to the series in one episode and blatantly name-dropping Super Saiyan) and pulled some of the highest ratings in television history stateside. It's popularity in North America is also what caused the franchise's revival in Japan as well as being as one of the forefronts in anime gaining popularity in the west. Not to mention it's arguably most popular in Latin America and Portugal where it's treated as practically religion (Saint Seiya is it's only competition). IIRC the only truly terrible dubs out there are the Malaysian dub (aka Speedy dub) and Greek dub. Edited by DBZAOTA482, May 31 2017, 04:43 PM.
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| * Mitas | May 31 2017, 03:29 PM Post #8 |
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Dragon Ball is nowhere near as big here in the UK as it seems to be in the US based on the American members experiences. I went to three different schools between the ages of 11-18. The only school where it was relatively well-known was my first one, at the age of 11, and it was really just a small group of people (myself included) who were vocal fans. In the two subsequent schools, it was barely talked about (which actually led to me falling out of interest in it). It's not even in the same universe as Pokemon, which I would say over 90% of people here know the name, and probably behind Digimon & Yu-Gi-Oh too. I'd be surprised if more than 10% of the population know what it is here. |
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| Darker | Jun 3 2017, 02:19 AM Post #9 |
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So you're okay with being mean-spirited towards someone else over something like this. That can't be good.
Again, this is only the US.
As I am the one who has spoken the most with my latin american neighbours, I'd say that this is indeed true, although not for Portugal. I hope you're not one of those people who believe portugal is a spanish speaking country (and you call me ignorant?), since that website doesn't mention Portugal at all. I will say though, Hispanic America is indeed the place with the most faithful DB dubs and the most loyal and insane followers. The amount of spanish DBZ material is insane, whether it's low or high quality, even hispanic american voice actors will sometimes join forces for crappy sketches, like this pretty amusing one between Homer Simpson and Vegeta.
And the french dub(from which many other bad dubs stem from thanks to mistranslations and horrible name changes), and the spanish dub, and the portuguese dub, and the hindi dub... Among many others. Nevermind the large amount of countries that didn't get DB. |
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| DBZAOTA482 | Jun 11 2017, 01:57 AM Post #10 |
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Calling someone ignorant is hardly even an insult. I called you ignorant because you said the series is not a pop culture icon even though more than enough evidence show that it is.
Of course, Portugal isn't a spanish speaking country. I didn't have any direct source to cite for it on the series' popularity but I heard stories about high school and college students literally going out of their way to watch the series. I also heard stories about female nurses complaining that their male co-workers were moving back schedules to watch Goku vs. Freeza. ...or was it Poland?
Excuse me but what is so bad about the Hindi dub other than the it's based on the English dub? And surely with the Spanish Dub you mean the Spain because the Mexican one is widely considered one of the best. Besides it's not like bad dubbing can hold the series back. Also, as far as I know just about every country that actually matters in the end got Dragon Ball. Even Africa, India, and Saudi Arabia got the series. Even if in the countries where it didn't get dubbed, there's still other sources available. Edited by DBZAOTA482, Jun 11 2017, 01:58 AM.
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| POOHEAD189 | Jun 16 2017, 03:12 AM Post #11 |
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I'd say there are mofo'kin tiers. Tier 1: Yeah I've heard of it Tier 2: I loved it when Vegeta was all "AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" Tier 3: Goku's PL was actually over 8,000 and not 9,000. Git gud. Btw there's 294 episodes. Tier 4: Toriyama actually wanted to make Android's 19 and 20 the original androids, but his editors didn't like it. Plus he forgot about Tao in his interview. Lol I read them Tier 5: *translates obscure manga passage in panel 6 of Ch. 17 like an archaeologist* I'm thinking most people on this site are Tier 5. Then again, it doesn't take a lot of DB knowledge to get translations... Edited by POOHEAD189, Jun 16 2017, 03:13 AM.
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| Darker | Jun 16 2017, 11:47 AM Post #12 |
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A pop culture icon is something known and at least loved or respected worldwide. Godzilla, Superman, Don Quixote, those are pop culture icons and have been for decades and even centuries, and will stay like that for a good while. You can't really compare DBZ to those three, among others I could mention, first and foremost because DBZ isn't known or loved worldwide. Before BoG, it was at the brink of being forgotten.
Well it wasn't Portugal.
I mean that alone is enough lol, but it was also not dubbed fully, so yeah.
You could argue it's the most faithful to the original japanese script, but one of the best? That's pretty subjective 'cause there are lots of odd choices for voices, and some are more fitting in the spanish version. But yes, I meant the spanish dub, if I were to mean the one from Latin America (just a head's up, it wasn't dubbed in Mexico, but Argentina, so no idea where you got that other than from ignorant assumption) I would've said latin spanish dub.
Uh... Trust me, it can. That, plus many other reasons which got in the way, like badly ordering the episodes like it happened with the spanish dub.
I'm not sure how to feel when talking to someone who says "every country that actually matters", especially when the next thing you say is "Even Africa, India, and Saudi Arabia got the series." Point and matter of fact is, me being the one who has spoken with a multitude of european buds, among people from other countries around the world, have often wondered what I was talking about when referring to DBZ. So in reality, it's not that well known worldwide, being at its most popular on about three countries counting its home country, and it's far from a pop culture icon. |
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| * Mitas | Jun 16 2017, 09:05 PM Post #13 |
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Also, Africa isn't a country. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Jun 17 2017, 05:28 AM Post #14 |
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I heard The Flash series on CW has a scene where Iris mentions Barry watched dbz as a kid. Thought that was pretty cool Yeah dbz is huge. You know how many times I've seen someone wearing a goku shirt? How many people in the gym I've seen wearing dbz shirts? |
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| DBZAOTA482 | Jun 19 2017, 09:15 PM Post #15 |
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Given there was still material regularly being released for it, was still often referenced in media throughout the world, BT3 selling almost 4 million units (it's the best-selling Dragon Ball game to date), and the international success of Kai is what led to Toei making the Final Chapters for it (particularly in the US with Nicktoons where it was getting some of the highest ratings that channel had ever seen)... I don't see how it was close to being forgotten. Battle of Gods may have caused a resurgence with the main series but the franchise as a whole was far from dying. Not to mention Dragonball Evolution was made in direct response to the franchise's popularity and considering the big deal that was made about it, people probably wouldn't have cared about it if it didn't have the DragonBall label. The franchise also made over 5 billion by 2014 in merchandise (probably more by now with how well Super and Xenoverse are doing) which beats or rivals iconic titles such as Mission Impossible, Terminator, The Matrix, G.I. Joe, Family Guy, and Ghostbusters.    
That's what others have said. It's not necessarily my opinion.
Speedracer had a terrible english dub but that's one of the beloved anime in the west. If that can survive bad dubbing then I believe Dragon Ball can.
Dunno what the hell you're talking about. You make the series sound like it's obscure or some moderately popular fad when that's obviously not true. If it's because they don't know about the nerdy s*** like EMIYA talked about then that's a terrible reason. It's also hugely popular in Germany given this event: http://thedaoofdragonball.com/blog/history/akira-toriyama-trip-germany-book-fair/ France is another place where the franchise is arguably most popular since it was one of the only countries that was getting video games for it prior to the release of Budokai and where it was dubbed le chouchou ("the favorite") ultimately putting anime on the map there, and invited Toriyama to introduce himself to the French audience and win an award for the show. It also has events funding by Toei themselves like here:  Oh and it's also arguably most popular in Brazil, Italy (where it was also a gateway series), and Hungary (which despises anything Asia and it's cancellation caused a HUGE outcry). A hugely popular Brazilian voice actor, who does Goku's voice (which is what he is mostly known for), even talked about how much the franchise influenced him: https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/6g3wpp/the_brazilian_voice_actor_tells_how_dubbing_goku/ Edited by DBZAOTA482, Jun 19 2017, 09:16 PM.
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