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Who really is the hero of the Survival arc?
Topic Started: May 3 2017, 04:46 AM (1,447 Views)
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None of the fighters in the story are really in the tournament for a noble cause. Most of them are basically only out to save their own skin while Krillin was bullied into it, #17 just wants to waste a wish on a f***ing boat, #18 is a greedy b***, and Goku... he is just the worst. He not only seems to not give a s*** people will die because of his battle-boner but he's basically mocking the other universes and just wants to punch things like the stupid, selfish meathead that he is.

Who is the hero...?
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Isn't Gohan fighting to protect his family?
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Thala na Gethu!

Who was da hero of Beerus Arc? Goku

Who was da hero of Golden whatever Arc? Goku

Who was da hero of Black/Zamasu Arc? Goku...sorry it was Trunks...totally forgot

Who was da hero of Tourney Arc? Goku, Veggie, Gohan....crap! NONE of DEM!!

Hero of the Survival Arc? Let me guess. Goin by track record, itz gonna be either Goku or....someone insignificant so that the spotlight stays on Goku. So yeah!
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I'd say gohan
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The one who isn't fighting for money. The one who isn't lying to everyone. The one who isn't fighting because he owes someone something and wants a wish, but originally said f*** it we all got to die some day, so all dying together is cool. The one who didn't remind Zeno of anything.

Vegeta ... Hell he is the most innocent of the bunch. He's going in there to fight for nothing but sport and competition.

Goku damned them all by reminding Zeno.
Krillin and 18 literally last episode were fighting for each others share of the money
17 wants to wish for a yacht so he can retire and travel the world.
Piccolo is cool with the stakes and thinks it will be fun.
Gohan has been the one to say lie to them all.

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Vegeta is fighting because Beerus is making him right? He'd rather stay with his daughter but I guess you can't really say he's heroic.

Krillin and 18 aren't dicks for wanting prize money, so what? They don't know the stakes and they might as well cash in.

17's reaction was weird, like he really cared about protecting one island but if the universe is erased...so what? Weird.

Piccolo's reaction was disappointing, out of everyone I thought would potentially give Goku the dose of reality he needs and slap some sense into him, I thought it'd be Piccolo, Vegeta, Chi Chi.

Gohan wants to protect his own but none of the heroes are even mentioning how tragic the loss of life in other universes will be. I know that they don't patrol their universe fighting evil but they I don't expect them to say "meh" when they know innocent people are going to die.

The truth is, until we see every character's reaction to the truth, we won't know who is most heroic but I'd still be Goku will be the main hero unfortunately. He really, really doesn't deserve it this time. And I don't want to hear any of that "Goku hasn't had a win for ages" bulls*** because you know what? Neither has anyone else, at least Goku gets to do the best and provide the most important role.
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If you couldn't tell by now, everybody will turn against Zeno.
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Maybe.

But they make him seem like an innocent child who doesn't know any better and not really evil. Killing that would be quite dark.

Goku being his friend should utilise that to teach him what he's doing wrong, who knows, maybe he will.
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Goku because he single handily stopped Zeno from destroying 8 universes and made it only 7. Goku just saved an entire universe worth of people, praise Goku.
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They could still turn against him and battle him to teach him how their lives aren't part of some big game, even if it doesn't result in his death...unfortunately.
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It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.

Goku I guess. He did save one universe, at least.
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May 4 2017, 02:12 AM
Goku I guess. He did save one universe, at least.
But he threatened to destroy his own universe at the start of the series, had himself almost killed outright when he hired Hit for a rematch, and then nearly incited a riot by mocking every other universe. Him uncharacteristically saving a universe unintentionally is hogwash.
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It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.

Then there are no heroes. They all are kind of selfish dicks and deserve to be erased.
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May 4 2017, 02:08 AM
Goku because he single handily stopped Zeno from destroying 8 universes and made it only 7. Goku just saved an entire universe worth of people, praise Goku.
Counter arguments

- Zeno forgot about the tourney, he reminded him

- Goku is the single reason why there are two of them

- We see a future many years ahead of time in Trunks world and Gowasu time travel with the rings to look at their future and universes aren't destroyed yet in what would be Gokus lifetime

- Beerus and Whis warned him out right.

- Goku isn't even giving his own universe its best fighting chance by not telling Vegeta the truth. Vegeta is the same guy who pushed himself in sixth months over Black and everyone because he wanted to protect a son that isn't even really his. What the hell do you think he would do for his own Bulma, Trunks, and Bra training wise?

- Goku is holding out on 18 and Krillin too which is stupid when you see hey have both improved. If Krillin could push his a*** to transform into a ssj and 18 is stronger and knows about his training, we can't ignore they could be bososted in Super with a gravity chamber or ROSAT or old Kai boost themselves to another tier.

Goku literally slapped a hornet nest because he felt like it. We saw in two futures Zeno hasn't erased everything. He chose to get he other one and bring hem to his world. He chose to lie to their strongest weapon who is absolutely ruthless and has no qualms going for a kill to protect his family in Vegeta. He's lied to Krillin and 18 despite knowing they could both jump tiers even more so, hell everyone could. Dendes ROSAT has no time or people limit. Imagine a scenario where all of them as powered up as they are right now, even takes 2 hours to go into the ROSAT together as that is a month to prep as individuals and as a team!
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It's like the Godfather; no heroes but some villains looking out for themselves.
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