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So how strong you guy's think piccolo and mys gohan is?; ?
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Topic Started: Apr 30 2017, 04:28 AM (2,698 Views)
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May 7 2017, 07:55 PM
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I'm not sure as things stand right now. The upcoming episode is hopefully going to clear up how Gohan's power works, which may, by extension, give us insight into how Goku's power works.
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May 7 2017, 08:21 PM
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I like how piccolo arm when cut off looked like gold blood. It appears he placed ki in it, which could create a cool special beam cannon surprise for a Frost this time around
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May 7 2017, 08:45 PM
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- May 7 2017, 08:21 PM
I like how piccolo arm when cut off looked like gold blood. It appears he placed ki in it, which could create a cool special beam cannon surprise for a Frost this time around Exactly I notice that to. If he had did that to gohan that would had been a kill for sure
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May 7 2017, 08:50 PM
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- May 7 2017, 05:59 PM
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- Apr 30 2017, 07:04 PM
It's obvious Ultimate Gohan was out of Piccolo's league. He was handling all of Piccolo's clones simultaneously, and then chopped Piccolo's arm off with ease. He lost because he let his guard down.
SSJ2 Gohan and Piccolo was much closer, but I would still give the edge to Gohan. He beat Piccolo in close quarters, and it's implied by Piccolo's dialogue that Gohan lost because he still wasn't taking the fight as seriously as he should have been, and he had his guard down.
Piccolo =< SSJ2 Gohan <<< Ultimate Gohan
I'm OK with that. It doesn't really give an indication of where Gohan is without his Ultimate power, though.
What that supposed to mean? Frost did the same thing then got his punches blocked with one hand. Piccolo let frost shoot him in the leg just like he let gohan chop his arm. So he can catch gohan off gaurd to end him quickly. Really all Ssj 2 gohan did was kick piccolo away which did nothing. Piccolo choked him out with ease if gohan was stronger he would had simply over power that. I have piccolo =< mys gohan for sure.
I already explained why I consider Piccolo only on par with SSJ2 Gohan in the post you quoted. You can have Piccolo stronger than Beerus for all I care, but he wasn't that impressive to me. Ssj 2 gohan wasn't that impressive he got choked out by piccolo within seconds. Piccolo>Ssj 2 gohan for sure. Unit I can see gohan down piccolo.
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May 7 2017, 08:58 PM
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- May 7 2017, 08:50 PM
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- Apr 30 2017, 07:04 PM
It's obvious Ultimate Gohan was out of Piccolo's league. He was handling all of Piccolo's clones simultaneously, and then chopped Piccolo's arm off with ease. He lost because he let his guard down.
SSJ2 Gohan and Piccolo was much closer, but I would still give the edge to Gohan. He beat Piccolo in close quarters, and it's implied by Piccolo's dialogue that Gohan lost because he still wasn't taking the fight as seriously as he should have been, and he had his guard down.
Piccolo =< SSJ2 Gohan <<< Ultimate Gohan
I'm OK with that. It doesn't really give an indication of where Gohan is without his Ultimate power, though.
What that supposed to mean? Frost did the same thing then got his punches blocked with one hand. Piccolo let frost shoot him in the leg just like he let gohan chop his arm. So he can catch gohan off gaurd to end him quickly. Really all Ssj 2 gohan did was kick piccolo away which did nothing. Piccolo choked him out with ease if gohan was stronger he would had simply over power that. I have piccolo =< mys gohan for sure.
I already explained why I consider Piccolo only on par with SSJ2 Gohan in the post you quoted. You can have Piccolo stronger than Beerus for all I care, but he wasn't that impressive to me.
Ssj 2 gohan wasn't that impressive he got choked out by piccolo within seconds. Piccolo>Ssj 2 gohan for sure. Unit I can see gohan down piccolo. He got choked out because his head wasn't in the game and he was off-guard. That was the entire point of the fight. In on-guard moments, SSJ2 Gohan did better than Piccolo.
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May 8 2017, 12:05 AM
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Why would Goku hold back against Gohan when we know he wanted training? We know he held back against Krillin cause it was stated and emphasized with the weighted clothing. With Gohan, he clearly wants a good training spar and he won't really get that unless he doesn't hold back, besides there's nothing indicating Goku held back at all.
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May 8 2017, 12:47 AM
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- May 8 2017, 12:05 AM
Why would Goku hold back against Gohan when we know he wanted training? We know he held back against Krillin cause it was stated and emphasized with the weighted clothing. With Gohan, he clearly wants a good training spar and he won't really get that unless he doesn't hold back, besides there's nothing indicating Goku held back at all. That's why it makes more sense for it to be one-off filler. Clearly the plot has gone in a different direction now.
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May 8 2017, 12:53 AM
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- May 8 2017, 12:05 AM
Why would Goku hold back against Gohan when we know he wanted training? We know he held back against Krillin cause it was stated and emphasized with the weighted clothing. With Gohan, he clearly wants a good training spar and he won't really get that unless he doesn't hold back, besides there's nothing indicating Goku held back at all. To avoid absolutely murdering his son? How is that even a question.
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May 8 2017, 03:17 AM
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Clearin- Goku's purpose of fighting Gohan was to gain, he wouldn't gain anything if he doesn't do his absolute best (as a Super Saiyan).
Pyrus- I don't see why it has to be seen that way when there's a few alternatives to how that came to be in episode 88.
Gohan has had an on and off training session post RoF saga but he declines too. I can use that to put him on or around SSJG Goku level. Of course over the Zamasu saga he declines slightly to be a bit beneath Goku but still able to challenge him.
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May 8 2017, 05:01 AM
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Goku was bored. Bored as f*** because Vegeta wouldn't play with him anymore and Whis/Beerus were at a conference. He was trying to have fun. He isn't tyrying to do anything but have fun and make Gohan/Krillin feel etter while doing so. He calls Gohan Saiyaman and is playing along similar to Satan play fighting with Gohan in Super
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May 8 2017, 07:38 AM
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- Pyrus
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- Apr 30 2017, 07:04 PM
It's obvious Ultimate Gohan was out of Piccolo's league. He was handling all of Piccolo's clones simultaneously, and then chopped Piccolo's arm off with ease. He lost because he let his guard down.
SSJ2 Gohan and Piccolo was much closer, but I would still give the edge to Gohan. He beat Piccolo in close quarters, and it's implied by Piccolo's dialogue that Gohan lost because he still wasn't taking the fight as seriously as he should have been, and he had his guard down.
Piccolo =< SSJ2 Gohan <<< Ultimate Gohan
I'm OK with that. It doesn't really give an indication of where Gohan is without his Ultimate power, though.
What that supposed to mean? Frost did the same thing then got his punches blocked with one hand. Piccolo let frost shoot him in the leg just like he let gohan chop his arm. So he can catch gohan off gaurd to end him quickly. Really all Ssj 2 gohan did was kick piccolo away which did nothing. Piccolo choked him out with ease if gohan was stronger he would had simply over power that. I have piccolo =< mys gohan for sure.
I already explained why I consider Piccolo only on par with SSJ2 Gohan in the post you quoted. You can have Piccolo stronger than Beerus for all I care, but he wasn't that impressive to me.
Ssj 2 gohan wasn't that impressive he got choked out by piccolo within seconds. Piccolo>Ssj 2 gohan for sure. Unit I can see gohan down piccolo.
He got choked out because his head wasn't in the game and he was off-guard. That was the entire point of the fight. In on-guard moments, SSJ2 Gohan did better than Piccolo. Nah just because he got choke out don't mean he was off guard. He just had to take that L. Even if he was off guard why couldn't he just over power piccolo and break the stranglehold? The only time he actually let his guard down is when piccolo let him cut his arm off.
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May 8 2017, 07:43 AM
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I know gohan got stronger but there's no way he would let anyone choke him out. If he was above a piccolo with no weight he would had blown his arms off just by some type of power ups. And if piccolo was far behind mys gohan there would had been no need to deflect piccolo blast. Mys gohan >=<piccolo is still a mystery. Yeah he cut off his arm but we not sure if that was part of piccolo plan just like the frost situation.
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May 8 2017, 11:04 AM
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- May 8 2017, 07:43 AM
I know gohan got stronger but there's no way he would let anyone choke him out. If he was above a piccolo with no weight he would had blown his arms off just by some type of power ups. And if piccolo was far behind mys gohan there would had been no need to deflect piccolo blast. Mys gohan >=<piccolo is still a mystery. Yeah he cut off his arm but we not sure if that was part of piccolo plan just like the frost situation. SSj 2 Gohan is most likely > Piccolo, if you think that Mys Gohan is ~Piccolo then I suggest re watching
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May 8 2017, 11:15 AM
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- May 8 2017, 11:04 AM
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I know gohan got stronger but there's no way he would let anyone choke him out. If he was above a piccolo with no weight he would had blown his arms off just by some type of power ups. And if piccolo was far behind mys gohan there would had been no need to deflect piccolo blast. Mys gohan >=<piccolo is still a mystery. Yeah he cut off his arm but we not sure if that was part of piccolo plan just like the frost situation.
SSj 2 Gohan is most likely > Piccolo, if you think that Mys Gohan is ~Piccolo then I suggest re watching All Ssj 2 gohan did is kick piccolo away. Which did no damage at all. And piccolo choked him out with ease. And what part of that put Ssj 2 gohan above piccolo? And do you know piccolo didn't let mys gohan cut his arm just like he let frost shoot his leg? Just like he treat cell to let him regenerate? Not saying he stronger then mys but he not far behind him either. Ever since the buu sega people try they hard to place piccolo low as possible lol
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May 8 2017, 11:18 AM
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- Apr 30 2017, 04:49 AM
If that were the case then Piccolo would have had zero issues taking down Tagoma. He didn't improve that much until after Resurrection 'F'. We don't know how strong tagoma was exactly. And were even more confused were base gohan and his transformation is at.
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