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Vegito's power Super [Manga]
Topic Started: Apr 25 2017, 12:37 AM (4,733 Views)
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Vegito in base was able to do just as much damage to Merged Zamasu as Super Saiyan Blue Goku's God Kamehameha did with much more area of effect on his body. So basing roughly off this alone, his base is at least Super Saiyan Blue tier.

Once he undergoes Super Saiyan Blue, he's stated to possibly being stronger then Beerus but I don't know how he found out about Beerus' full power. But for simplicity sakes he's equal to Beerus, does this means Goku and Vegeta alone are at least 1,000x weaker then Beerus in actuality?
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I don't think the Kamehameha necessarily has to mean Base Vegetto was stronger than SSB Goku, but it's definitely a good implication IMO. With all of Vegetto's forms considered (apart from God since I don't think he had that), he'd definitely end up at the very least 100x stronger than the individual Saiyans.
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Yeah I think there's probably a pretty big gap between goku and beerus still. So I doubt goku and vegeta individually will surpass beerus at least any time soon
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Without the convenient aid of Kaio-ken, and the lines about Beerus using 10% on Vegeta and 70% on Goku absent from the manga, there could be a giant gap between Goku/Vegeta and Beerus. The most Beerus said about Super Saiyan God Goku was that he hadn't had to "try this hard" in a while, which could mean anything.

Goku admitted Beerus was "way stronger" than them even as recent as chapter 16. Kaioshin said there was nobody stronger than Beerus at the end of the same chapter too (although obviously we know of a couple that are).

So all in all, I'd say there's still a huge gap between Beerus and the Saiyans. It's enough that it took a Potara fusion just to perhaps be on Beerus's level.
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Also don't forget that Vegetto took a Senzu between blasting Zamasu and turning SSJB. So apparently he wasn't even 100% in his Base?
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Yeah, apparently that's a thing now.

Base Vegetto >>> Base Vegetto (made up of two trashed Saiyans) > SSB Goku/Vegeta, I guess.
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Nah the just took Zamasu by surprise and the 'god' knew he was immortal so his defences were lax.
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I dont think durability should be weakened to the point that fodder can pierce right through you. But that's why I like to think of that blast as amped though, even if it is an off guard shot it still managed to do way more then what a Super Saiyan Blue tier fighter did.
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Nah the just took Zamasu by surprise and the 'god' knew he was immortal so his defences were lax.
I don't know, the way that bit was treated with the blast completely engulfing Zamasu, and the wide shot of it leaving Earth; it gave me the impression of it being more powerful than SSJB Goku's Kamehameha.
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It was just to give Vegetto a badass entrance.
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People always seem to take more damage when they're surprised even if they aren't suppressed. Vegerot's attack wasn't weak but I wouldn't take it take it to mean he's definitely stronger than ssjb goku and vegeta in base
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Well, Merged Zamasu was also cautious of Vegito being "a new form" so he had some worry there, implicating his base was at least a threat now and that's before the Senzu Bean.

That's why I think it should be like:

Blue Vegito >>>> SSJ3 Vegito >>> SSJ2 Vegito >> SSJ Vegito > Base Vegito (Post-Senzu Bean) >~ Merged Zamasu ~ Base Vegito (Pre-Senzu Bean) >>> SSJB Vegeta >> SSJB Goku

There has to be a difference between Vegito and his fusees by at least 400x in base after all, so yeah I can view the attack from Goku due to an off guard hit cause Zamasu was clearly toying with him.
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I wouldn't go as far as to say Base Vegetto was above Merged Zamasu or even near him. If that was the case, he wouldn't need to go all the way up to Blue when regular Super Saiyan would be more than enough to stomp Zamasu, and the ki drain would be less. The only thing I took from Zamasu questioning Vegetto was that he genuinely wondered if Vegetto was a new transformation.
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Yeah if ssj Vegetto could beat Zamasu or at least stall him for an hour, they really screwed up by going all out.

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I wonder if Vegito tried using Goku's strategy against Hit and Vegeta's strategy against Black with using Red and then Blue when attacking, that his fusion would have lasted longer.
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