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Current ssjbkk Goku and the rest of Super
Topic Started: Apr 22 2017, 11:03 PM (3,994 Views)
SuperSaiyanGodGogeta
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Hit is weaker than SSB Goku and it was stated that his power doesn't increase, only his time skip improves.

Again, 6-10-15. Backed up even further by Vegeta forcing 10%. No one throughout Super is making the gains that you're suggesting.
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SuperSaiyanGodGogeta
Apr 23 2017, 01:12 AM
Hit is weaker than SSB Goku and it was stated that his power doesn't increase, only his time skip improves.

Again, 6-10-15. Backed up even further by Vegeta forcing 10%. No one throughout Super is making the gains that you're suggesting.
Right, so he survived against Kaioken x10 SSB...how, exactly?
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Because his time skip allowed him to and killing isn't allowed in the tournament.
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SuperSaiyanGodGogeta
Apr 23 2017, 01:13 AM
Because his time skip allowed him to and killing isn't allowed in the tournament.
Dude, Goku literally nullified his Time-skip with the Kaioken, and Hit took multiple hits as well as being able to survive his Kamehameha. If Goku's over 10x stronger than him, how does that make any sense?
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Because that's what's shown. I don't know why you're asking me that. SSB Kaiokenx10>SSB Kaioken>SSB>Hit.
SSB Goku is shown to be stronger than Hit and Hit's power is stated to not increase, so the rest of the hierarchy obviously falls into place that way. Hit wasn't even hit with the Kamehameha. He avoided it with his time skip.
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SuperSaiyanGodGogeta
Apr 23 2017, 01:19 AM
Because that's what's shown. I don't know why you're asking me that. SSB Kaiokenx10>SSB Kaioken>SSB>Hit.
SSB Goku is shown to be stronger than Hit and Hit's power is stated to not increase, so the rest of the hierarchy obviously falls into place that way. Hit wasn't even hit with the Kamehameha. He avoided it with his time skip.
Yes, and if it's shown, there's commonly a reason behind it.

I'm asking for your opinion. There's a reason that Hit was able to survive hits from Kaioken x10 SSB Goku, and it's not just ''because that's what was shown'', that's a total non-answer.
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He survived it because he can and killing isn't allowed.

-SSB Goku is stronger than Hit
-Hit's power doesn't increase when he improves

So it is what it is.

If you're asking why Hit wasn't knocked out, I guess he's tenacious enough to take those hits.
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I don't think this guy has a real answer for anything according to what I'm seeing from your quoted posts. If it's not spoon fed to him in a guidebook, he just spits out sentences without thought or logic behind them.
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SuperSaiyanGodGogeta
Apr 23 2017, 01:25 AM
He survived it because he can and killing isn't allowed.

-SSB Goku is stronger than Hit
-Hit's power doesn't increase when he improves

So it is what it is.

If you're asking why Hit wasn't knocked out, I guess he's tenacious enough to take those hits.
So Goku's holding back using Kaioken x10?

And no, being 'tenacious' doesn't allow you to take hits from an opponent that strong without any kind of external signs of damage.

If you don't have Goku at 80% of Beerus by the Tournament of Power, what do you make of SSR Black and SSB Vegeta? Base Black was able to fight SSB Vegeta and take no real damage, so Base Black >~ SSB Vegeta

SSR Black > Base Black >~ SSB Vegeta ~ SSB Goku > SSG Goku (BoG)

SSB Vegeta (Post-RoSaT) > SSR Black > Base Black >~ SSB Vegeta ~ SSB Goku > SSG Goku (BoG)

Does that feasibly fit within 6-9?
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What I said is stated in the show itself.

Goku is stronger than Hit as an SSB. Hit's power never increased, therefore SSB Kaioken x10 Goku is over 10x stronger than him. Asking why Hit didn't die against Goku is nonsense.
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Didn't Hit say he was getting stronger thru the fights?
"I hit the booth and I just went super saiyan!" - Big Sean
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Apr 23 2017, 02:46 AM
Didn't Hit say he was getting stronger thru the fights?
In the anime he adapted to s***. He didn't do anything in the manga.
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Whis stated that Hit's raw power wasn't increasing. Hit improving purely refers to his time skip, so he was weaker than SSB Goku the whole match let alone Kaioken SSB.
Edited by SuperSaiyanGodGogeta, Apr 23 2017, 02:50 AM.
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Pyrus
Apr 23 2017, 02:49 AM
Griffzilla
Apr 23 2017, 02:46 AM
Didn't Hit say he was getting stronger thru the fights?
In the anime he adapted to s***. He didn't do anything in the manga.
Either way, the power scale ssgGogeta is using doesn't make sense. At least in the manga we see that Beerus may have been matched or surpassed by Vegetto.
"I hit the booth and I just went super saiyan!" - Big Sean
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The power scale I'm using is the one Toriyama uses, so it makes perfect sense to me.
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