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Can Vegeta Become a Super Saiyan Rose?
Topic Started: Apr 8 2017, 07:31 AM (2,345 Views)
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No, only Black could go SSR. Vegeta and Goku both surpassed black so there's no point anyway.

Vegeta's best bet at a SSGKK alternative would be to grow his tail back.
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CameronBZH
Apr 8 2017, 08:08 AM
No, only Black could go SSR. Vegeta and Goku both surpassed black so there's no point anyway.

Vegeta's best bet at a SSGKK alternative would be to grow his tail back.
In the anime, black was stronger than Goku&Vegeta before fusing with Zamasu
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No. This is Black's god ki manipulating the Blue form or the God form, in my opinion. Being Zamasu in essence, after all. That's my interpretation of it, anyway. Just like how Black's eye colour are the same colour as Zamasu's.
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Apr 8 2017, 09:14 AM
CameronBZH
Apr 8 2017, 08:08 AM
No, only Black could go SSR. Vegeta and Goku both surpassed black so there's no point anyway.

Vegeta's best bet at a SSGKK alternative would be to grow his tail back.
In the anime, black was stronger than Goku&Vegeta before fusing with Zamasu
No he wasn't. He was shown to rip a hole in the dimension and make clones but he wasn't stronger.

Goku and Vegeta both say they are putting out more power and stronger when they charge merged Zamasu. Then Vegeta puts out more power in the father son GG with one broken arm. Then he takes a kill shot meant for Trunks. Goku puts out enough power to overwhelm merged Zamasu by breaking his good arm with the kamehameha which we see can cause you to break an arm or spasm now (Krillin) if you overload it. They had more reserves than when they fight black. Either that or they got stronger mid battle with rage, pride, and all
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Apr 9 2017, 01:54 AM
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Apr 8 2017, 09:14 AM
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Apr 8 2017, 08:08 AM
No, only Black could go SSR. Vegeta and Goku both surpassed black so there's no point anyway.

Vegeta's best bet at a SSGKK alternative would be to grow his tail back.
In the anime, black was stronger than Goku&Vegeta before fusing with Zamasu
No he wasn't. He was shown to rip a hole in the dimension and make clones but he wasn't stronger.

Goku and Vegeta both say they are putting out more power and stronger when they charge merged Zamasu. Then Vegeta puts out more power in the father son GG with one broken arm. Then he takes a kill shot meant for Trunks. Goku puts out enough power to overwhelm merged Zamasu by breaking his good arm with the kamehameha which we see can cause you to break an arm or spasm now (Krillin) if you overload it. They had more reserves than when they fight black. Either that or they got stronger mid battle with rage, pride, and all
Fact is that Goku&Vegeta were unable to handle Black's clones. They would've got overwhelmed, evidenced by them both panting for air
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Ssj rose is just ssjb for a Kai in a saiyan's body. Kai's are gods of creation, perhaps he just chose for it to be pink.
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I thought it was just Super Saiyan, and that it was just so happen to be pink? Pretty sure Herms said it though.
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Apr 8 2017, 09:14 AM
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Apr 8 2017, 08:08 AM
No, only Black could go SSR. Vegeta and Goku both surpassed black so there's no point anyway.

Vegeta's best bet at a SSGKK alternative would be to grow his tail back.
In the anime, black was stronger than Goku&Vegeta before fusing with Zamasu
No he wasn't, Vegeta stomped him. He was definitely causing confusion with the clones but no way was he stronger than Vegeta or Goku.
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Apr 11 2017, 08:08 PM
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Apr 8 2017, 09:14 AM
CameronBZH
Apr 8 2017, 08:08 AM
No, only Black could go SSR. Vegeta and Goku both surpassed black so there's no point anyway.

Vegeta's best bet at a SSGKK alternative would be to grow his tail back.
In the anime, black was stronger than Goku&Vegeta before fusing with Zamasu
No he wasn't, Vegeta stomped him. He was definitely causing confusion with the clones but no way was he stronger than Vegeta or Goku.
When did Vegeta stomp Black after the latter ripped hole in space & time? It's obvious if neither Vegeta, nor Goku could handle his weakass clones that they are no match against the real one. It's like saying SSJ3 Goku was stronger than Kid Buu while he was having problems even with the mini versions of him. The Arc was cut short and many people assume Black was weaker than them, but tell me, if that's the case, why would he want for them to become stronger, so he could fight them afterwards? Merged Zamasu is s***, and Black is an idiot for fusing with his other self. They ultimately lost the Saiyan's body, the only thing that was making Black nearly immortal and growing at an extraordinary rate.
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Black
Apr 12 2017, 03:22 PM
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Apr 11 2017, 08:08 PM
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Apr 8 2017, 09:14 AM
CameronBZH
Apr 8 2017, 08:08 AM
No, only Black could go SSR. Vegeta and Goku both surpassed black so there's no point anyway.

Vegeta's best bet at a SSGKK alternative would be to grow his tail back.
In the anime, black was stronger than Goku&Vegeta before fusing with Zamasu
No he wasn't, Vegeta stomped him. He was definitely causing confusion with the clones but no way was he stronger than Vegeta or Goku.
When did Vegeta stomp Black after the latter ripped hole in space & time? It's obvious if neither Vegeta, nor Goku could handle his weakass clones that they are no match against the real one. It's like saying SSJ3 Goku was stronger than Kid Buu while he was having problems even with the mini versions of him. The Arc was cut short and many people assume Black was weaker than them, but tell me, if that's the case, why would he want for them to become stronger, so he could fight them afterwards? Merged Zamasu is s***, and Black is an idiot for fusing with his other self. They ultimately lost the Saiyan's body, the only thing that was making Black nearly immortal and growing at an extraordinary rate.
Are you saying Black was stronger than Merged Zamasu?
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Apr 12 2017, 03:22 PM
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Apr 8 2017, 09:14 AM
CameronBZH
Apr 8 2017, 08:08 AM
No, only Black could go SSR. Vegeta and Goku both surpassed black so there's no point anyway.

Vegeta's best bet at a SSGKK alternative would be to grow his tail back.
In the anime, black was stronger than Goku&Vegeta before fusing with Zamasu
No he wasn't, Vegeta stomped him. He was definitely causing confusion with the clones but no way was he stronger than Vegeta or Goku.
When did Vegeta stomp Black after the latter ripped hole in space & time? It's obvious if neither Vegeta, nor Goku could handle his weakass clones that they are no match against the real one. It's like saying SSJ3 Goku was stronger than Kid Buu while he was having problems even with the mini versions of him. The Arc was cut short and many people assume Black was weaker than them, but tell me, if that's the case, why would he want for them to become stronger, so he could fight them afterwards? Merged Zamasu is s***, and Black is an idiot for fusing with his other self. They ultimately lost the Saiyan's body, the only thing that was making Black nearly immortal and growing at an extraordinary rate.
Are you saying Black was stronger than Merged Zamasu?

There's the fact that after his big speech about rage and saiyan power, Black swiped at Vegeta with his scythe and Vegeta dodged without even bothering to unfold his arms. Pretty casual if Black's a threat. I don't understand how Goku keeps up with either of them but whatever.
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Eh not sure where this discussion ended up...but my take is Zamasu's Ki determined his Rose status. The whole point of Goku Black was he had similar Ki to Zamasu, which is why they went to check him out. So it looks like regardless of the fact he took over Goku's body his type of Ki remained.

This actually goes hand in hand back to DragonBallZ when Ginyu switches bodies with Goku. He can't simply use the same power that Goku has just because he has his body. His Ki was completely different.

I'm also pretty sure Zamasu states the reason to switch to Goku's body was mostly for the Zenkai boosts he would get and the shear fact of the ability it had to gain power in general. So it wasn't to get Goku's power necessarily. Just to give himself more potential I guess. So basically his body had more of a ceiling than Goku as far as he was considered.

This is further proved by the fact that he basically said he learned to go Super Rose while fighting against Goku and Vegeta. It brought that out of him so his theory was kind of correct.

Trunks pulling BS rage equating to Super Blue+ wasn't accounted for, not sure what writer got in on that without letting poor Zamasu know but overall it worked out as he expected. :)

Anyway my answer to the question is No....Vegeta doesn't become Rose and neither does Goku because their Ki is different. Their Saiyan Ki when it is equatable to Gods is Blue and Blue hair that is why they are like that. Who knows maybe they stick with all Saiyans becoming Blue or maybe they make Gohan if he finally gets his rightful God mode a different color...to signify different Ki meaning his is not all Saiyan. But things could be more complex than that too but that could be us making it. Writers may be throwing stuff at the wall so meh let's enjoy.

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