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Lucid dreaming and sleep paralysis stories
Topic Started: Mar 25 2017, 01:08 AM (421 Views)
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I've never had a lucid dream before but I hate sleep paralysis. It's happened a couple times and it was pretty scary

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Explain your sleep paralysis. Curious as to what that is.
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Sleep paralysis is when you "wake up" but you're paralyzed. You can see the room you're sleeping in and you might see or hear stuff

I was napping one time on the couch. I opened my eyes but I couldn't move at all. It felt like there was a weight on me. Then the f***ing little girl voices started happening. That was my first experience

Second time there was a man wearing all black who stood up next to me. Felt like I wanted to scream so bad but I couldn't and then I woke up
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I think I go through that often. At a point where my mind is telling me to get up, so it creates a version of my bedroom where I actually get out of bed in the dream and try to turn the light on, but it doesn't work. I realize I'm dreaming, so i'm placed right back in bed by my mind. Almost like an inception style dream in a loop of me trying to wake up but it doesn't happen?
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Never had sleep paralysis, but I seem to have lucid dreams quite often. I usually set an alarm 45 minutes before I want to be up, and I tend to lucid dream within those 45 minutes. I don't recall specific examples but it seems to work for me.
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This is a fascinating subject for me. I've actually tried to purposefully induce sleep paralysis. After multiple failures - in an attempt to control lucid dreaming - I finally was on the brink of actually getting there. In the real world as I was transitioning into the wake-dream state, I started to hear... faint voices. It was strange. Including one shrill scream for help. I really couldn't move but I was wide awake, so, I was definitely almost there. But I had such a strange, ominous feeling wash over me and I was legitimately hallucinating. I was scared, so, I willed my mind to sleep as well. I never attempted to go past that, since it seemed like a strange feeling was overtaking me. I have no doubt I was nearing the lucid dream aspect, but, those sleep paralysis hallucinations are no joke.
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To add to this, the body naturally shuts down the muscular system during REM sleep. It's essentially the body's defense mechanism not to act our lucid dreaming that occurs during REM. Sleep Paralysis occurs when the mind become conscious during REM.

See sleep goes through stages , 1,2,3,4 and REM with each subsequent stage adding deeper layers of lucidity to the dream. Once you've hit REM, that's where your dreams are most lucid. They have eve done some interesting tests where they studied people who slept and woke them up at certain area of the sleep cycle had differences in lucid dreams. Those in the earlier stages had little to no knowledge of their dreams wile later stages were more lucid. They also interestingly found out IIRC that these people only realized these dreams once they were woken up during them.

This is why many people don't remember their dreams or believe they haven't had one.

But to the main question, I've never had Sleep Paralysis but I can imagine how frightening it would be knowing your wake but unable to move your body.
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Interesting topic. I myself have actually trained for lucid dreaming. I love lucid dreaming and did a lot of independent research on the subject. The best training is doing a reality check whenever you enter a new room. Also, you can buy the Novadreamer created by Dr. Stephen LaBerge. He is essentially the founder of lucid dream studying and training. He received his doctoral thesis on the subject. The novadream is a little mask you put on your face at night when you go to sleep. It can detect when you enter REM sleep and produces a sound and a flashing light which you can see inside your dream. So if your dreaming about being on a boat you may all of a sudden see lightinin and thunder, or stuff like that.

Sleep paralysis is scary as hell as it can create visual and auditory hallucinations. People seem to see demons or evil spirits while paralyzed. However, if you can master sleep paraylis without getting scared you can actually transition into lucid dreaming and/or astral projection. There are astral projection meditation beats on Youtube that help put your body into sleep paralysis. Essentially, it's a deep meditation state. My first sleep paralysis happened in my car at school and my eyes were open. It was nuts.

If anyone is curious, if you are ever in sleep paralysis and you want to snap out of it due to hallucinations or whatever, inhale deeply and quickly and it should snap you out of it. But yeah.. I did a lot of lucid dreaming training. The MILD technique is best for beginners


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Never had a lucid dream, but I've had many instances of sleep paralysis throughout my life. It tends to happen more when I'm stressed out. It's the scariest s*** ever. You wake up, but you can't move your body at all and you start panicking. It usually only lasts a few seconds for me though, I start struggling against it while the panic builds and builds and suddenly I snap out of it. I've never actually had hallucinations though, I didn't even realize until recently that some people experience them during sleep paralysis.

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If anyone is curious, if you are ever in sleep paralysis and you want to snap out of it due to hallucinations or whatever, inhale deeply and quickly and it should snap you out of it.

I'll try that next time. If I remember that is lol.
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Does anyone here intentionally try and lucid dream? How do you do it?
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I've actually tried to purposefully induce sleep paralysis.


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It was terrifying. The shrills and screams I heard that sounded like they were getting closer and closer as my body became more and more stiff.

I didn't add this to the previous post, but, I remember on one other occasion I tried doing this I was able to bide by the sounds, but, I started panicking for some reason. I opened my eyes and there was a ... I've never told anyone but my mother this.

A drowned woman in a white strait jacket standing in the corner of my room with her face cloaked in shadow, mouth twisted in bloodlust and eyes glowing red like the devil. It was f***ing terrifying. She didn't move. It was like a damn cardboard cutout. I forced my eyes shut again and instead of snapping out of it, I fell straight into sleep. Then I was woken up an hour later anyway because I had an appointment I needed to get to.

I'm an atheist - and I know it was a hallucination - but apparently this phenomena is NOT strange. Hearing screams and seeing ... apparitions? I suppose? Are fairly common.

One fairly good way to trigger it, I think Piper touched on this, is to flip a light switch in every room you enter IRL.

That seems a little silly, let me explain.

In the good ol' waking world, unless you got an electrical problem, when you flip a light-switch usually something happens. The lights turn on. Or a light. There's a coorelation. In dreams, this is usually NOT the case. In fact, I can remember several times, panicked, in a dream, where I was trying to hit the light switch and it was doing nothing. So, essentially, if you train your brain to recognize IRL, every time you step into a room and flip a switch and there is a cause/effect, then, when you do the same in a dream... and there is no cause/effect reaction, your conscious mind will kick into gear, register that this is NOT normal and spring to action... allowing you to become lucid.

I did this once.

When I was a little boy, the first time I truly lucid dreamed was thanks to my older brother.

I sat down across from him in our shared bedroom and broke down crying because of how badly my father was sick and how I just kept having nightmares. I was crying and this was the brother that usually punched - not hugged - me. But he did neither. He sat there, mulled it over, and leaned forward on his knees and told me not to be afraid because they are just dreams. That ultimately I'm the one in control. He gave me a pep talk, basically.

I remember that dream so vividly. I was in his fathers' house (we have different fathers) playing with a mobile above a baby carriage (this bit makes no sense to me, there was no baby in the carriage) when my now-dead step-mother burst into the room and said that we needed to leave right away. I ran with her, ran and ran. I kept asking where my father was and when I turned to look for her, she was gone. Behind me were hounds - or something - chasing me down. Then, out of nowhere, my brothers' voice tore through the veil and I heard his words.

"It's your dream, man, own it. Fight it." And I turned around to the hellhounds with sloughing off flesh that were charging at me - and by simply putting my hand out like I was about to fire a ki blast (we watched DBZ on Toonami every day at this point in our lives! :lol: ) and a shockwave came out... they were gone. I remember walking through a large city and things were coming to life under my feet. Like I was the Earthbinder and wherever I walked came life. It was almost Biblical in some ways. I remember there was a very attractive woman in a windowsill above me beckoning me up into the apartment complex. Now, I was eight or nine at the time. So while she was attractive and everything, I didn't really understand/had developed sexually yet. But my mind at least had a slight Freudian aspect to it in that the person welcoming me in was a very attractive woman :lol:

The rest of the dream? It seriously felt like real life. Like time was passing, second by second, rather than entire chunks of the dream missing like they usually are. I sat on a chair with a footrest and a TV-tray next to me with... was it cereal? Pop tarts? I don't quite remember. I was lounging and snacking. I couldn't change the TV channel, which was annoying. I kept trying to, even yelling "this is MY dream, you WILL change!" but it wouldn't change. Then I discovered that the reason it wasn't changing was because it was already on my favourite TV show at the time (other than DBZ): Ed, Edd n' Eddy. So I spent the rest of that dream watching Ed, Edd n' Eddy. :lol:

That was the most lucid dream I've ever had.

I've had bouts of lucidity in some of my dreams. Many of them, in fact. Where I squeeze out of a particular encounter because it's SO stressful and I recognize that it's going to wake me up IRL, and I briefly gain enough lucidity to pull myself out of it. Into some other hellish landscape. But it's better than waking up screaming/panting/sweating like I usually do as a side-effect of my PTSD.
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I've had sleep paralysis happen once, I think I made a topic about it on here. It wasn't a very pleasant experience. I semi-regularly get something similar. I sort of...wake up in my dream, without being aware that I'm in a dream (so no lucid stuff). I just know that I have to wake up, but that's really hard to do. I have to time my breathing right in the dream and then wake up with a gasp of air. I figure it's some form of sleep apnoea that's manifesting itself in my dreams.
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Sleep paralysis was terrifying as a kid but now I just don't give a s*** about it and I just sleep through.
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Mar 25 2017, 07:32 AM
Does anyone here intentionally try and lucid dream? How do you do it?
Search lucid dreaming MILD technique and it should help you. Here's a short summary of it though.

Keep a dream journal. Whenever you wake up immediately write down your dream, even if you can't remember much of it all, even if it's just "I was in the water somewhere and then I woke up." The act of logging dreams opens up your subconscious and helps you find similarities within. Step two is do a reality check. Every time you enter a new room, ask yourself are you dreaming and do somethng that proves you're not dreaming. I would walk into a room and say is this a dream, then I would try to push my hand through my other hand. If it was a dream I would be able to push my left hand through my right hand. You want to do reality checks all the time, because eventually it becomes a habit to your mind and should transfer in your dream.

Next, before you go to bed you want to say something over and over to force your mind to learn that you are dreaming. I say, "tonight when I dream I will know that I am dreaming and I will lucid dream." Say it over and over and really think about it. This next step is by far the best but it's the worst to do, lol. Set an alarm for early in the morning. So say you sleep from 11-8, set your alarm for 5:30. Get up at 5:30 and go on the internet and do nothing but read about lucid dreaming. Read lucid dreaming tips, techniques, different stories, etc. Do this for a half hour and then go back to sleep. By doing this you get your mind in the mood and you are still tired enough that you can fall into REM sleep quite quickly and then you may be able to identify your dreaming.

You can also try going back into your last dream you were having before you woke up, that will help you identify it as a dream. The next and most horrible one is sleep paralysis. Put yourself in a catatonic state where you can't move, your body is sleeping but your mind is awake, you won't be in that state for long until you doze off. Once you're in that state do nothing but think about lucid dreaming.

This is the most important thing about lucid dreaming

Once you began to lucid dream, you will automatically get excited, because lucid dreaming is very exciting. Most people wake up from this, but for the most part, you can tell when you are slipping out of lucidity. Whenever you feel you are slipping, spin really fast in circles in your lucid dream. Just raise your hands out and spin. Don't know why but it regains your lucidity. Once you are lucid dreaming have fun and fly!! I love flying. My favorite thing to do. :)
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