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| + Steve | Mar 22 2017, 06:55 PM Post #1 |
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https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/everything-we-know-so-far-about-the-westminster-shooting Pretty crazy stuff. People seem to be upset that it's being treated as a terrorist attack... Literally right outside a government building, why the hell shouldn't they. Could be any number of others planting bombs or whatnot. Doesn't seem to be the case of course but not taking precautions would be incredibly stupid. Surprised Trump hasn't taken to Twitter to talk s*** about it yet... |
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| Political Piper | Mar 23 2017, 12:16 AM Post #2 |
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Give him time, he will.. lol.. I find it irritating how our media is so reluctant to admit to Islamic terrorism. There was one somewhat recently, I can't remember where exactly, where a Muslim man yelled Allah Akbar right before killing some people and himself; the police said it was terrorism and the media wouldn't report it. Obviously they don't want to spread Islamophobia, and yes I understand that. But when you limit news to try to prevent certain information getting out, you are essentially dictating the narrative which means it's not news at all. I should go look for that story again. I'm sure there are many others as well. |
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| + Steve | Mar 23 2017, 04:30 AM Post #3 |
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I half agree and half disagree with that. I feel like we should know but at the same time the media can't control how people will take that information and they know generally how people will take that information. So it's bad that we don't get all the details but at the same time it's good that they're reluctant to add fuel to the fire. Every article on terrorist attacks or alleged terrorist attacks just adds to the group of people who think all Muslims are evil and it's understandable that the media might not want to contribute to that particular narrative. The increased use of vehicles in these attacks is pretty worrying. (not sure if this is confirmed to be a terrorist attack yet) Thank f*** the people who do this s*** are terrible planners but can you imagine how devastating it would be if they were organized? Look how much damage one truck did in Nice, imagine a group of 5 crazies all stole trucks and ploughed in to a crowd at an event. An utterly terrifying concept and it'd be so simple to do compared to bombing a place. Heck in all the confusion and hysteria they might even manage to escape. |
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| NinjaSushiCreative | Mar 23 2017, 11:02 AM Post #4 |
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The attack was instantly treated and dealt with as a terror attack for two main reasons and the majority of the UK haven't really had an issue with it being treated as a terror attack as far as I know. Any attack near the houses of parliment will instantly be seen as a terror attack considering the government and the queen are there quite regularly. What worries me is that the bbc were broadcassting and telling the public MP's were escaping parliment via underground tunnels. Not something you put on a national broadcast that people involved can possibly see. In december, while claiming the berlin christmas market attacks, ISI publically called for more vehicular attacks to be carried out. The second people were injured by a vehicle it was instantly linked with that. Source 1 Source 2 I myself was actually walking through London, and was at the other side of the bridge when everything kicked off. It was a lone attacker but some media sources are calling it a 'failled attempt' and are warning people about further attacks which I personally believe to be fear mongering as London is succeptable to an attack any day, and today when police are everywhere seems to be the least likely for them to try and attempt another attack. What has come out recently in the UK, not sure if the US is aware of this yet, is that multiple other people have been arrested and a flat in Birmingham has been raided in connection. For those not aware of UK geography Birmingham is a considerable distance to the North. This is worrying. If the attackers aren't localised to London, who knows where they're going to hit next? |
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| Copy_Ninja | Mar 23 2017, 11:20 AM Post #5 |
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It's irresponsible to do that. The news you hear when attacks first happen is almost never accurate. There's often reports of multiple assailants even when it turns out there's only one. Remember that attack that happened in Canada a few months ago? There were initial claims that was Islamic terrorism (and there was claims that the man shouted Allah Akbar before attacking) but it turned out to be completely untrue. With the way things are the moment, as soon as you say there's been an attack the resident dickheads are out in full force to spout hateful s***. You also have to consider other factors too. For example, the Orlando attack. I don't think there's any doubt the POS that did that was Muslim. But then you have to look if he's part of a terrorist organisation, if so which one, if not what his actual motivation was etc. Even though he apparently 'pledged allegiance' to them, the CIA said there was no link between the shooter and ISIS. This stuff matters in how you classify these things and effects how you should respond to them. Just labelling an attack an "Islamic Terrorist Attack" really does nothing but fuel hate. By all means, label something a terrorist attack when it is one (and there's been no doubt that this one was terrorism) but there needs to be responsible reporting. |
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| * Mitas | Mar 23 2017, 01:17 PM Post #6 |
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Can somebody explain to me the logic behind media reporting statements like 'ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attack'? I mean, for one, they're most likely going to claim responsibility for attacks regardless of whether they were involved because it only benefits them. Secondly, even if they were involved, getting their name out there and connected to these sort of attacks is exactly what they want to happen. I feel like they should be treated like streakers on a football field: don't give them the attention that they so desperately want. Obviously report the incident and report it as a terrorist attack (if that can be confirmed), but don't mention ISIS by name. |
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| + Steve | Mar 24 2017, 01:22 AM Post #7 |
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Yeah it's kind of weird how the news just makes people hate but more importantly fear ISIS more and more, I guess it sells papers. Imagine if more things like this happen or fear is built up enough that we'll see more and more armed police officers everywhere? Crazy how they just spread the exact fear the terrorists want to instil in everyone. I don't get why when someone shouts "Allahu Akbar" people say it's definitely a terrorist attack too, like someone going crazy and obviously willing to die wouldn't just say that for s***s and giggles. If it's true there's always a connection but they claim truths as if they have the facts... |
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| NinjaSushiCreative | Mar 24 2017, 09:52 AM Post #8 |
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I'm assuming this wont be in the mainstream but there was an incident last night too. Not an attack but they found a package and exploded it, scaring everyone in the park. I'm sure I actually heard someone scream http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/westminster-attack-latest-controlled-explosion-metropolitan-police-scotland-yard-london-attack-a7647091.html |
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| Sam | Mar 24 2017, 04:14 PM Post #9 |
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It seems as if it is almost a battle cry for more attention when they do as the Orlando shooter did, who had no ISIS affiliations, to "pledge allegiance" because the media gets that much more hungry to cover the story. I believe that's a factor and a bit of a disturbing one as well. I think Omar Mateen was a sexually frustrated/mentally unstable adult with access to firearms and took this out on the Pulse Night Club. For him, pledging allegiance to ISIS meant more media coverage and of course ISIS is going to take the credit when they didn't do anything at all to "earn" another fifty kills. |
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