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Vegeta vs. Captain Ginyu; post-zenkai from battle with Recoome
Topic Started: Mar 20 2017, 03:57 AM (254 Views)
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How would Vegeta do against Ginyu after his Zenkai boost from his defeat by Recoome? In the show, Ginyu attempted to switch bodies with Vegeta. However, he already had a hole in his chest from punching himself prior to switching bodies with Goku, so this is most likely why he wanted to switch bodies with him; not necessarily because Vegeta was stronger (than Ginyu at perfect health). Ginyu also allowed Vegeta to beat on him in order to weaken his body even more, and he appeared to endure the beating quite well.

Would Vegeta win in a fight against Ginyu at 100% health? Ginyu cannot use the body switch in this fight.
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Goku seemed to think that if Ginyu got a hold of Vegeta's body, it would be all over, which I think means that Vegeta is at least stronger than 90k Goku. Whether he can beat Ginyu or not is debatable, but I personally think that Vegeta wins here.
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Mar 20 2017, 04:02 AM
Goku seemed to think that if Ginyu got a hold of Vegeta's body, it would be all over, which I think means that Vegeta is at least stronger than 90k Goku. Whether he can beat Ginyu or not is debatable, but I personally think that Vegeta wins here.
This is likely because Goku injured so badly he couldn't even stand on his own at this point. At full health, he'd have nothing to worry about from Vegeta or anyone in his body or at his power level.
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What I mean is, all Goku knows about Ginyu's body change technique is that Ginyu can't access the full power level of the body he stole. This was seen with Ginyu-Goku's power level being only 23k. If Goku thought that a hypothetical Ginyu-Vegeta would be strong enough to wipe the floor with Kuririn and Gohan, even taking into account Ginyu being unable to access Vegeta's full power, then Vegeta should be stronger than Goku.
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Vegeta should be above 180k Goku. Why would Goku worry at all if Vegeta was beneath himself? With Goku at 180k, Ginyu was able to bring out 23k of his power. Krillin and Gohan were about 25k each, so for Ginyu to surpass them in Goku's mind, Vegeta would need to be >/> 180k Goku.
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When Vegeta was healed after eating the sensu bean, he was in awe of Goku's speed and power as he beat Recoome and then Berter. Why would he be fascinated if he were just as strong as or stronger than Goku?
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It was a delayed Zenkai. He blatantly stated that he was continually getting stronger after the Zenkai - see him reaching ~500k for no reason against 1st Form Freeza.
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Mar 20 2017, 04:13 AM
It was a delayed Zenkai. He blatantly stated that he was continually getting stronger after the Zenkai - see him reaching ~500k for no reason against 1st Form Freeza.
I always watched the Anime, so I don't recall him ever saying that. And even if he did, it's been so long that I can't remember. :rofl:

It also explains how he's later able to stand up to Frieza, who (according to DBZ Kai) had a power level of 530,000.
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Post-zenkai Vegeta > 180,000 Goku >>/> 120,000 Ginyu

Vegeta would smash with the utmost ease. It'd be another stomp similar to how Goku beat the individual Ginyu squad members.
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Mar 20 2017, 04:10 AM
Vegeta should be above 180k Goku. Why would Goku worry at all if Vegeta was beneath himself? With Goku at 180k, Ginyu was able to bring out 23k of his power. Krillin and Gohan were about 25k each, so for Ginyu to surpass them in Goku's mind, Vegeta would need to be >/> 180k Goku.
To be fair, wasn't Goku in terrible condition, and aren't Kuririn and Gohan weaker than Vegeta regardless? I still have Vegeta post-Zenkai stronger than 180k Goku, but I don't know if Goku being worried is a good reason.
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Ginyu figuring he'd get more out of Vegeta implies Vegeta is heavily stronger than Goku.
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Mar 20 2017, 04:10 AM
Vegeta should be above 180k Goku. Why would Goku worry at all if Vegeta was beneath himself? With Goku at 180k, Ginyu was able to bring out 23k of his power. Krillin and Gohan were about 25k each, so for Ginyu to surpass them in Goku's mind, Vegeta would need to be >/> 180k Goku.
Yeah, but Goku knows he can access 180k only with Kaioken, which is a technique he mentioned Ginyu wouldn't be able to achieve. Then he thinking Ginyu with Vegeta's body would defeat everyone can only mean Vegeta is >> 90k, no?
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Vegeta should win this without any issues. I have him at 250,000.
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