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| Dbzk1999 | Feb 9 2018, 10:33 PM Post #61 |
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This movie feels like it’ll be as generic as they come in regards to sci fi movies. Nothing about it really stood out from that trailer imo, if anything, I’m getting fant4stic vibes from that trailer (some vibes that I really don’t wanna be getting) |
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| + Steve | Feb 10 2018, 01:15 AM Post #62 |
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I think it'll be at least halfway decent but will probably get trashed by critics because "OMG WHERE'S SPOODERMAN" Many people already say "You can't have a Spider-Man movie without Spider-Man"...it's not a Spider-Man movie though? I wonder if these people will complain that Batman isn't the main character of a Nightwing movie if that still happens, probably. Anyway, I'm just hoping it's really dark. I'm in the mood for superhero/anti-hero movies that aren't for children. I don't expect the story to blow me away so I hope the action and CGI are good. |
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| Dbzk1999 | Feb 10 2018, 01:24 PM Post #63 |
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Normally I wouldn’t mind a hero not showing up. But if this is an origin story for venom, I’d say that Spider-Man not showing up would be a valid criticism. Spider-Man and his bond with the symbiotie is why Venom is able to use Spider-Man’s abilities following parker’s Separation with the symbiote. In someone like Nightwing’s case, Batman wouldn’t need to appear, there would just be an acknowledgement that Nightwing is now going independent (like how TT did robin, there were a good amount of references to the fact that Dick had left batman’s Side to go on his own without even saying his name) |
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| Darker | Feb 10 2018, 02:25 PM Post #64 |
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I guess I have to repeat myself. Spider-Man really doesn't need to be part of this. Especially not because of the symbiote's abilities, those could easily be independent to the symbiote. Anyone who knows Venom is mad at Spidey not being part of this because Spider-Man was a big part of Eddie's breaking point, he was what set off the bomb inside Brock's already unstable mind. and the symbiote only worsened things, but this is an easy problem to explain without the need of Spider-Man, because Sony owns plenty of other Marvel heroes that could get Spidey's role in this story. Batman being left out of a Nightwing movie is a MUCH bigger deal, because there's more of Batman in Nightwing's character than there is of Spider-Man in Venom. And the fact that I need to say this surprises even me. Sony considers this as part of the MCU, anyway. Marvel doesn't, but they do, which will probably result in something interesting. |
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| Dbzk1999 | Feb 10 2018, 03:30 PM Post #65 |
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IMO, removing Spider-Man from the mix wouldn’t make it a venom movie, especially considering it’s a movie meant to explore the character’s origin (along with it also including carnage) . I’m not even talking about the webhead appearing, I’m talking about him at least being referenced. If he’s referenced, or at least acknowledged, then it’s all good. And I don’t believe Batman would NEED to be in a Nightwing movie, especially if it’s meant to be a solo movie. All that would be needed is a reference to the fact that he’s his own man now in regards to acknowledging the Bat. Again, I remember that TT did it in their origin episode by the crooks wondering why robin was there without Batman before he cuts them off and said that’s hes going on his own now |
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| Darker | Feb 10 2018, 05:09 PM Post #66 |
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Venom hardly ever needs to be paired up with Spidey unless authors force conflict between the two, while Nightwing is with Batman almost all the time, not only because they're family but because they operate during similar times and don't try to avoid each other like Venom and Spider-Man. If Venom really needed Spidey most of the time, he wouldn't have had his fair share of solo series and adventures. And like I said it's not impossible to replace Spider-Man. Just his read Venom's backstory, it's super easy. There are tons of heroes that could be thrown in there and the only thing this does, presumably, is take away Venom's villainous nature towards the web-slinger, which is completely fine. |
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| + Steve | Feb 10 2018, 11:28 PM Post #67 |
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If we're talking current DCEU I don't think he'd really need to feature heavily considering the aged state of Batman, Nightwing should be pretty capable on his own. If anything I think it'd be kinda lame to do a buddy movie, like the first sign of trouble Bats has to save the day. Though if they're doing Nightwing I do hope it's an origin story and reveals more of Batman and whatever happened with Robin instead of just "Here is Nightwing, a character half of you have probably never heard of, be excited" I've just seen that people are still thinking that Life is a prequel to this, I still hope that's true personally. I'm pretty confident that they denied it but that doesn't mean it isn't true. That would be a fitting way to have built up powers for Venom without having to include Spider-Man at all. Though lord knows how they'd explain containing Calvin considering how OP it is. In any case I just hope this movie isn't some generic drama-psychological thing with little action, presumably they've learned from Deadpool that an audience takes well to graphic comic book violence if done right. A slow sombre movie about how f***ed up Eddie is would be dull. |
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| Darker | Feb 11 2018, 12:39 AM Post #68 |
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I thought when I said "there's more of Batman in Nightwing's character than there is of Spider-Man in Venom", I made it kinda clear that I didn't mean Nightwing is more forced to stay with Batman, of course not. He's gone on his own moreso than any other member of the Bat Family barring Jason. Unlike Spidey who can be swapped with another hero or be ignored, very few heroes or characters could fit Batman's role in Dick's story, unless you decide to alter it a lot.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was. They're taking inspiration from actual comics here so at least I can hope for more comic booky stuff to be part of this(ala Deadpool and unlike the MCU). Since the movie has Carnage and a few other symbiotes for Venom to take on, I hope the action is good. I'll be fine with a half superhero, half psychological, half horror movie for Venom. Another thing I may or may not have mentioned before is that Tom is using motion capture. |
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| lazerbem | Apr 24 2018, 04:03 AM Post #69 |
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New trailer I like Brock being a legit reporter here. The Venom voice in his head is nice. I'm a real fan of the design, looks nice and slimy. |
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| Darker | Apr 24 2018, 05:55 AM Post #70 |
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Agreed. I'd like the eyes to be bigger, but maybe he can change them at will. Hopefully. Other than that, good trailer. |
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| + Green | Apr 24 2018, 11:26 AM Post #71 |
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I'm pleased with the aesthetics but a little conflicted with Eddie's portrayal. I kinda want to skip forward to an Eddie that is a little less good. I'm also hoping that they can find a way to tie Spider-Man into this. I'm not sure how due to the huge age gap and the fact that Spider-Man is supposed to have the Venom symbiote first. I'm being a little critical but I still play to see this movie shortly after its released! |
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| Southern Gothic | Apr 24 2018, 01:42 PM Post #72 |
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Eh, I guess the alien can come into contact with an actual spider and produce some of those abilities if it really comes down to things. That way he can function independently of Spider-Man and still hold some similarities. I've got some hopes for this...MCU is doing a good job but I still want to see some properties developed outside of that company. This has a bit more of a traditional, Hollywood edge to it plus a good cast. This is also a good chance to flesh out Eddie Brock on his own, without having to play second fiddle to other characters. The suit looks good, a big improvement over Spider-Man 3 imo. |
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| TrunksinSwimmingTrunks | Apr 24 2018, 04:21 PM Post #73 |
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Pretty cool to see Riz Ahmed in there. Dude's made it. I've been hyped for this movie for years, but that's an extra bonus. I'm not going to look up the voice actor for the symbiote until after I watch it, because if it's a famous person it'll potentially ruin the immersion. |
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| Dbzk1999 | Apr 24 2018, 05:00 PM Post #74 |
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Better than that first trailer, still cautious though. Can’t be worse than Spider-Man 3’s portrayal of Eric Forman cosplaying as Venom. But still, it’s gonna be strange having an origin story with venom without (supposedly) Spider-Man tying into it. |
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| + Steve | Apr 24 2018, 05:28 PM Post #75 |
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His powers still looked pretty cool though, less like webbing and more like tendrils. Though that is very Carnage-like. All we need now is a s***ty pointless romance plot to derail it. If Carnage is the big bad hopefully he's in it more than the last 15 minutes, that would suck hard. Would be cool if it tied in to Spider-Man but I honestly don't care, it can still be good without that and it will be an interesting experiment if so. There's probably dozens of obscure heroes/villains out there that could make good movies but if their arch nemesis isn't a hot property they won't see the light of day. Not a massive fan of the amount of comedic stuff in the trailer also, hopefully that's not overblown. Edited by Steve, Apr 24 2018, 05:28 PM.
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