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Power and Speed of movie characters.
Topic Started: Mar 15 2017, 10:03 PM (807 Views)
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Okay Cooler in Movie 5 was being blasted at Faster Than Light speeds by Goku's Kamehameha taking about 21 seconds to leave earth to the sun. Light needs 8 minutes for that trip. But within that 21 second trip he was able to say an entire sentence before arriving at the sun. Does this mean he can perceive speed at around the speed of light?

Broly was also able to destroy a galaxy in the south, which likely includes:

Asteroids
Planets (small and giants)
Stars (small dwarfs and hyper giants)
Solar Systems
Super Massive Black Hole (in the center)

If his attacks are able to disrupt and even destroy a vast void of nothingness, doesn't this makes his power even more fierce then before?
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Broly merely attacked the galaxy, he didn't destroy it.
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The opening shows a galaxy disappearing there's many more.
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Mar 15 2017, 10:21 PM
The opening shows a galaxy disappearing there's many more.
If we take that literally than Broly and the movie DBZ cast is ridiculously far beyond light speed and likely far faster than any of the characters in Super just by sheer virtue of Beerus taking two minutes to do anything with travel while Broly took seven to eight seconds at most to travel to those places and destroy them.

I refuse to believe that Broly is faster than Beerus.
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That sequence was obviously sped up. Everything in the movie suggests it was and is an ongoing problem, not something that already happened.
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Mar 15 2017, 10:21 PM
The opening shows a galaxy disappearing there's many more.
...Seriously.

Anyway

The movies show off the characters' super strength and augmented durability really well, we see the likes of Cooler, Slug and Broly tossing the Z-Warriors through buildings with ease and tanking kamehamehas, final flashes and other attacks.
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Remember when Broly nearly died to lava?
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Okay even if that was sped up, Broly still destroyed one of the galaxies in the southern quadrant. That either requires massive loads of power or moderate speed around at least light. Besides they're movie characters, its up to whomever wants to include their storyline with the main continuity.

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Nah I've got to agree that some of the movies are on a whole different power scale

Broly destroyed the majority of the south Galaxy. He didn't one shot it but there's absolutely no way he can only be a planet buster if he can wipe out the majority of a quarter of the universe, let alone a single Galaxy in under 30 years. And when goku went to see the destruction and the energy trail he left he was like "oh s*** king Kai might be right this guy MIGHT be stronger than us" he didn't really believe it. They're all solar system+ level or maybe even galaxy level

It's stated multiple times throughout the movie and once even by Paragus that if broly is let totally loose and loses control he will destroy everything in the universe. Unlike cell and boo who had similar statements, broly is a saiyan so he's not going to live hundreds if not thousands of years. I can't see how this is possible with just planet level destructive power that doesn't make sense at all

And cooler's revenge had goku shooting him to the sun...that's faster than light come on don't waste your breath arguing against that

And also in movie 10 broly the father son KHH blasted him to the sun so it was faster than light but he was able to react quick enough to shoot a few more blasts at it and put up a shield before it him it. So his reaction speed is pretty quick
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Remember when Broly nearly died to lava?
nearly died? anyone with a BP of 4,000 should be able to swim in magma.
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Not quick enough to avoid lava tho
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Then why did Gohan think dunking him in lava would kill him? Why did Gohan actually fear entering the lava himself? Why did Broly take several minutes to get out of the lava and need a shield to get out?
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Yeah, looking over the scene (granted english dub, but at minimum it's clear Gohan thinks he's won, at minimum temporarily), it's pretty clear Gohan thought Broly taking a lava dip would kill him.

https://youtu.be/rNA_4cuTg4k?t=435



at the 7:15 mark.

two minutes minimum (not including the time skip) he's down there as well. He also seems to have gained a few more scratches but don't quote me on that. In any case, it's clear lava in some respect is relevant (and deadly) to the Z-fighters, Gohan also believes he also would have died had he been engulfed by the lava, and Broly seems to have survived via forming a ki shield around himself.
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The lava thing is so inconsistent because Goku survived complete submersion in it back on Namek, anime-wise.

But by all intents and purposes, lava is supposed to be strong enough to severely injure if not kill Gohan, otherwise there'd be no point in having Krillin rescue him.
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Non-canon character had always preform strong feats. Broly isn't even the most impressive since people forgot what Janemba did

Broly destroyed a galaxy so fast that King kai felt he can destroy his northern galaxy
Hatchiyack warped space itself, including galaxies
King Vegeta destroyed 3 planets with ease
Goku lights up an entire solar system just from powering up in front of Ginyu
Goku punches Frieza planet buster to another planet
Goku and Frieza move so fast that king kai can't even see them any more
Bojack destroyed the 4 galaxies in the past
Frieza supernova literally destroying practically half a solar system
Garlic jr creating the dead zone which can suck up light, acting like a black hole

And then there is Janemba, who literally took things further

Janemba warped the afterlife itself in jelly beans since he effected grand kai place as well as shown
Janemba created his own alternate space
Gogeta light up the afterlife just from being born
SSj3 Goku shaked the entire afterlife just from going SSj3
Kid Buu destroys galaxy in the past
Gohan-buu going to destroy the universe by screaming

non-canon DBZ is insane until super came out and blitzed it



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Hatchiyack warped space itself, including galaxies

When was that?
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Goku and Frieza move so fast that king kai can't even see them any more

Not that impressive.
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Bojack destroyed the 4 galaxies in the past

Do they say destroy? He plundered them, but destroy isn't the same as that.
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Frieza supernova literally destroying practically half a solar system

When?
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