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How will the robotic economy affect global employment?
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Topic Started: Mar 15 2017, 02:18 AM (1,538 Views)
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Rockman
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Mar 25 2017, 12:25 AM
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- Mar 15 2017, 02:39 AM
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- Mar 15 2017, 02:32 AM
Well offhand, this will make an uptick in skilled workers able to maintain the robotic workforce. No matter how well made the machine, it will ALWAYS need some gentle tweaking by human hands to continue to work.
The robots won't take over all industry but it definitely will annihilate the jobs dedicated to repetitive development like cars, phones and other assembly line goods.
Also, the government is in no real position to force job creation, all they can do is create an environment conducive to job growth. But I can promise you that robot army of workers or not, you aren't getting free crap anytime soon.
Explain to me how is everyone going to be employed when HR is very choosy with one person out of other 50 people applying for a position? There are people out there who have college degrees and good amount of work experience and still can't get full time jobs to move out of their parents' home. How is this robotic economy ever going to change that now... I beg to question.
I hate to break it to you, but isn't that the worker's own fault for not making themselves marketable and skillful? The jobs that people like me are replacing with robots and automation still need people to maintain, build, and fix them. So your first thought as a skilled laborer should not be, damn, I don't have a job anymore. Instead should be, damn, maybe I should learn how to maintain, build, and fix those things...
Back to the coal worker fiasco, it's their own fault for only having skills in mining coal. Learn to do something else and move forward. Industries die. It's part of economics.
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Mar 25 2017, 12:30 AM
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- Daemon Keido
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- Mar 24 2017, 08:32 PM
- Nagito Komaeda
- Mar 24 2017, 08:16 PM
Your entire post is laced with the assumption that everybody does, or should, want a job that's 'professional'. Where is that coming from?
It's not an assumption, it's almost too much of a fact to be considered an assumption or an opinion. Why would people want to be flipping burgers all day for $8 an hour?
So you take issue with the pay and not the actual job, then?
Lol, this is common sense. Low pay flip burger jobs are starter jobs, working at places like Apple and Microsoft as sales or technician are for older and more experienced people, and they're actually salaried jobs. We just don't have enough beyond flip burger jobs these days.
Okay, so if there was a high minimum wage, you wouldn't have any issues with those kinds of jobs?
For the spare time, no because it's better than not having a job and being dependent at least. If burger jobs were $20/hr, people wouldn't be complaining so much now. But they were never meant to be high pay. Also, you create UBI by taxing robots and then giving it to the millions, if not, billions of unemployed right?
You are not looking at the solutions you have been given. We don't need more salarymen to build a workforce. We need more entrepreneurs to blaze the trail. Sticking to what is working today will NOT help when the workforce is reorganized by a robotic population.
There's a political issue with making entrepreneurs... how could one be an entrepreneur if he doesn't have anything to create himself?
There is nothing political about being an entrepreneur.
Want a good startup company? Get a few lawnmowers can get into lawn maintenance.
I am a cemetery caretaker and I got that job by talking myself past the front door. And I had marketable skills to that end. And now I maoe as much as those salarymen you seem to respect so much. In fact, I make more money than many of their entry level careers.
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Mar 25 2017, 03:41 AM
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- Mar 15 2017, 02:32 AM
Well offhand, this will make an uptick in skilled workers able to maintain the robotic workforce. No matter how well made the machine, it will ALWAYS need some gentle tweaking by human hands to continue to work.
The robots won't take over all industry but it definitely will annihilate the jobs dedicated to repetitive development like cars, phones and other assembly line goods.
Also, the government is in no real position to force job creation, all they can do is create an environment conducive to job growth. But I can promise you that robot army of workers or not, you aren't getting free crap anytime soon.
Explain to me how is everyone going to be employed when HR is very choosy with one person out of other 50 people applying for a position? There are people out there who have college degrees and good amount of work experience and still can't get full time jobs to move out of their parents' home. How is this robotic economy ever going to change that now... I beg to question.
I hate to break it to you, but isn't that the worker's own fault for not making themselves marketable and skillful? The jobs that people like me are replacing with robots and automation still need people to maintain, build, and fix them. So your first thought as a skilled laborer should not be, damn, I don't have a job anymore. Instead should be, damn, maybe I should learn how to maintain, build, and fix those things... Back to the coal worker fiasco, it's their own fault for only having skills in mining coal. Learn to do something else and move forward. Industries die. It's part of economics.
People can only do so much to market themselves. The rest is on the employers, it's not like they're lazy or don't want to work or anything like that. The criticisms of people not wanting jobs because they're lazy is a myth. Have you ever witnessed that even employers or HR can be unprofessional too sometimes? Or like I I said.. it's a possibility that jobs are just very scarce or it could be a combination of unprofessional behavior from HR and job scarcity.
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