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Freeza's Full Power
Topic Started: Mar 7 2017, 08:04 AM (653 Views)
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I've seen people mention how Freeza can't withstand 100% power for long, but do they know why? As I am currently reading the manga and it's stated that he can't withstand it for long because of the Spirit Bomb and the battle, so it's not naturally extremely draining. It was just that the Spirit Bomb wore him out.

This also puts to rest the idea that he wasn't at true 100% power I believe. It didn't harm him immensely. He wasn't hurt enough to not be able to still go all out.

I'm not sure if this actually puts anything to rest, as I find it hard to believe this was looked over, but just in case, I wanted to make mention of this tidbit.

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Exact quote?
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Vol. 11, page 288. First panel Freeza says "It's time for you to see my full power revealed!!!!" Then on the third panel Goku says "why go to your full power now...? Maybe... because your body can't withstand it for long anymore?!"
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He says he can't withstand it for "a long time". Without he spirit bomb he could probably sustain it for a long time. That's all he's saying. I don't think it necessarily means he can sustain it forever if he's not badly injured. He wouldn't be capping his power if he could normally sustain it that well
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Chapter: 320 (DBZ 126), P11.1-3
Context: with 5 minutes (ha!) before Namek explodes
Freeza: “In that case, I’ll show you my 100% power! There’s no way you can defeat me! Prepare yourself!”
Goku: “Why are you using your full power now?...I know: it’s because when you use all of your power, your body itself can’t handle it.”



Viz is wrong here.
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Mar 7 2017, 06:41 PM
Chapter: 320 (DBZ 126), P11.1-3
Context: with 5 minutes (ha!) before Namek explodes
Freeza: “In that case, I’ll show you my 100% power! There’s no way you can defeat me! Prepare yourself!”
Goku: “Why are you using your full power now?...I know: it’s because when you use all of your power, your body itself can’t handle it.”



Viz is wrong here.
What determines one translation being better?
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Viz translates context, Herms translates direct word for word. there's nothing wrong with using Viz but in this case I think it's wrong. The literal translation only says that his full power is not sustainable.
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And by all other accounts, the literal translation is the correct one here. I'm not sure why Viz went with that direction when nothing else backs it up, but eh.
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At least both can make sense in context, just ine makes Freeza have even more ridiculous stamina, durability, and endurance.
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Frieza was implied to suppress his full powers in every form to prevent backfiring right on his face

Despite that, he still displayed occasionally as in his 1st form (sitting in floating pod) & 2nd (Hulk-sized alien) against Veggie & Piccolo respectively

I feel his 4th form could've had faar much power but considering the insanely bulky muscle, yet balancing speed, stamina & agility against someone as superior as SSJ Goku would definetly have some adverse effects

I dare say NONE other than a Super Saiyan could survive Frieza's FP. Savage af

I would say its the combined damage induced by Goku's Times 20 Kaioken Kamehameha, Spirit Bomb AND some hits from SSJ Goku (in a brief fist-fight) would've had some effect
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Freezer not being able to withstand 100% power has nothing to do with his injuries. He couldn't fight at 100% for a long period for the same reason no one can sustain a great effort if he has never before trained to resist going all out.

Freezer wouldn't have been able to withstand 100% of his power even if he hadn't been injured at all, because as a reason for him not having trained ever he had to force his body to the limit to use all his power (which made him slower than he should have been).
And besides all that there's the fact that he was badly injured by the Genkidama, which further decreased his power.
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imo. i'm wrong tho.

[Namek] Freeza (Fighting Power): 96 000 000
This is the start of his fighting power; typical of fighting power, as power increases, stamina will decrease faster than power increases.

[Namek] Freeza (Max): 120 000 000
Typical with max power; he can achieve this power for short periods of time at a great expense of his stamina (i.e. raising power for full power blasts or physical attacks)

[Namek] Freeza (100% Power): 120 000 000
Freeza prolongs his use of max power but suffers critical drain in stamina.
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The "anymore" is not used in the Japanese anime translated by Steve Simmons either:

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So the probability of Viz twisting the line a bit is almost 100% concrete.
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"Nyruhehehehe"

No one can exert themselves at 100% for long, especially when they're fighting someone stronger than themselves (Goku in Super Saiyan for example).

For example, even Goku didn't last too long against Cell at 100%, same with him fighting Kid Boo... the list goes on.

Your power drops because your stamina drops as you continue to fight at your peak.
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Mar 20 2017, 01:16 AM
No one can exert themselves at 100% for long, especially when they're fighting someone stronger than themselves (Goku in Super Saiyan for example).

For example, even Goku didn't last too long against Cell at 100%, same with him fighting Kid Boo... the list goes on.

Your power drops because your stamina drops as you continue to fight at your peak.
But Freezer's stamina was specially bad. It wasn't because he was fighting someone stronger (even injured, Freezer still defeated Goku's best KameHame), it simply was because Freezer was using the 100% of his strength for the first time in his life. Of course, even the trained people will get tired after some time, but someone that hasn't used all his strength in his whole life will get tired much sooner.
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