Donald Trump Accuses Obama of 'wire-tapping' his office

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Donald Trump Accuses Obama of 'wire-tapping' his office
Tweet Topic Started: Mar 4 2017, 12:35 PM (2,594 Views)
+ Emmeth	Mar 4 2017, 12:35 PM Post #1
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/04/donald-trump-accuses-obama-of-wire-tapping-his-office-before-election If he can prove this, how much of an impact will it have on Obama's legacy as a whole? If he can't prove it, how much credibility does Trump lose? Otherwise, what does it all mean for american politics? Edited by Emmeth, Mar 4 2017, 12:36 PM.
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Know'm Sayin'	Mar 4 2017, 12:58 PM Post #2
ZERO HOOTS GANG Posts: 248 Group: Member Member #12,785 Joined: November 27, 2015 Gender Male Country Korea Favourite Anime Full House What Browser do you use? Bowser Favourite Manga Billy and Mandy	Obama was a blood thirsty slime ball that executed Muslims via drone strike. It wouldn't surprise me in the least, but hey as long as obama keeps taking pics with athletes and rappers its all gravy right?
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+ Emmeth	Mar 4 2017, 01:01 PM Post #3
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Know'm Sayin' Mar 4 2017, 12:58 PM Obama was a blood thirsty slime ball that executed Muslims via drone strike. It wouldn't surprise me in the least, but hey as long as obama keeps taking pics with athletes and rappers its all gravy right? Please stay on topic, this is a very unproductive post.
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Know'm Sayin'	Mar 4 2017, 01:02 PM Post #4
ZERO HOOTS GANG Posts: 248 Group: Member Member #12,785 Joined: November 27, 2015 Gender Male Country Korea Favourite Anime Full House What Browser do you use? Bowser Favourite Manga Billy and Mandy	Emmeth Mar 4 2017, 01:01 PM Know'm Sayin' Mar 4 2017, 12:58 PM Obama was a blood thirsty slime ball that executed Muslims via drone strike. It wouldn't surprise me in the least, but hey as long as obama keeps taking pics with athletes and rappers its all gravy right? Please stay on topic, this is a very unproductive post. You asked for my opinion, and I gave it. If what what wanted you instead was a Yes or No poll then you should have made it into one.
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+ Emmeth	Mar 4 2017, 01:04 PM Post #5
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Know'm Sayin' Mar 4 2017, 01:02 PM Emmeth Mar 4 2017, 01:01 PM Know'm Sayin' Mar 4 2017, 12:58 PM Obama was a blood thirsty slime ball that executed Muslims via drone strike. It wouldn't surprise me in the least, but hey as long as obama keeps taking pics with athletes and rappers its all gravy right? Please stay on topic, this is a very unproductive post. You asked for my opinion, and I gave it. If what what wanted you instead was a Yes or No poll then you should have made it into one. I didn't ask for your opinion on Obama, especially not opinions you probably can't back up. I asked about his legacy in one part of the OP, I never asked you to bash Obama in the way you did.
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lazerbem	Mar 4 2017, 01:25 PM Post #6
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	TBH, if Obama was doing that, then it is relevant as it would be evidence of moral underhandedness prior to supposed wiretapping. In any case, I suppose that the worst Obama's legacy could get is basically being Nixon where there's some fond remembrance for certain programs but also acknowledgement of moral dirtiness. As for Trump, it should ruin him...but Republicans will fall in line and bail him out, so not really.
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EMIYA	Mar 4 2017, 01:25 PM Post #7
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	I've already warned you Know'm Sayin' about your disrespectful and off topic speels about Obama. You want to make a topic where you think can support all the terrible things you say about Obama, go a head, good luck I'd say. But this topic isn't about you going off on the former President where as Emmeth has said, I doubt you can back up those claims. --- --- As for the topic at hand I'm not sure. Let' say Obama did "wiretap" his office before election. Firstly, why? What impact would this have later on? In the end, Obama's term was...decent. Maybe average I suppose so in the long run did this really have any effect? In the end, even if it ends up being true, I feel more effort in trying to fix politics would be at hand than trying to punish one person. If it's not true... Well then, add that to the checklist of random things that Trump says that aren't true. How does that effect him. Considering his record low approval ratings...eh. I guess the impact wouldn't matter. He's already treated by over half the population as being incompetent to his job. I somehow doubt this is going to make him drop massively. It's just going to hurt a bit more and drop his approval a bit more. In the end, I feel that in either case, it's not going to lead to much. I hope it would lead to better efforts to control US politics and corruption but I'm not sure. I think it's going to be difficult to really hold Obama against anything unless it was proven to have a great detriment on the country. If it's not, congratulations, here goes Trump again. Even if it is true, is this going to make Obama worst than Trump? I somehow doubt that.



Know'm Sayin'	Mar 4 2017, 01:43 PM Post #8
ZERO HOOTS GANG Posts: 248 Group: Member Member #12,785 Joined: November 27, 2015 Gender Male Country Korea Favourite Anime Full House What Browser do you use? Bowser Favourite Manga Billy and Mandy	EMIYA Mar 4 2017, 01:25 PM I've already warned you Know'm Sayin' about your disrespectful and off topic speels about Obama. You want to make a topic where you think can support all the terrible things you say about Obama, go a head, good luck I'd say. But this topic isn't about you going off on the former President where as Emmeth has said, I doubt you can back up those claims. --- --- As for the topic at hand I'm not sure. Let' say Obama did "wiretap" his office before election. Firstly, why? What impact would this have later on? In the end, Obama's term was...decent. Maybe average I suppose so in the long run did this really have any effect? In the end, even if it ends up being true, I feel more effort in trying to fix politics would be at hand than trying to punish one person. If it's not true... Well then, add that to the checklist of random things that Trump says that aren't true. How does that effect him. Considering his record low approval ratings...eh. I guess the impact wouldn't matter. He's already treated by over half the population as being incompetent to his job. I somehow doubt this is going to make him drop massively. It's just going to hurt a bit more and drop his approval a bit more. In the end, I feel that in either case, it's not going to lead to much. I hope it would lead to better efforts to control US politics and corruption but I'm not sure. I think it's going to be difficult to really hold Obama against anything unless it was proven to have a great detriment on the country. If it's not, congratulations, here goes Trump again. Even if it is true, is this going to make Obama worst than Trump? I somehow doubt that. Oh so the US never drone striked innocent civilians? lmao Spoiler: click to toggle As for the question at hand it won't tarnish the perception of Obama, if anything liberals are gonna thank obama for trying to defeat trump. EDIT: Also how was my first comment unnecessary? You ASKED how would we look at obama if that was true and I gave you how I currently feel and most likely will feel even if true. Also since when can we not be critical about someone in politics? I called him a SLIME BALL<<<---- it's not even a cuss word Edited by Know'm Sayin', Mar 4 2017, 01:55 PM.
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EMIYA	Mar 4 2017, 01:52 PM Post #9
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	You know holding up a random sign doesn't make it true right? The same way if I held up a sign saying "I can travel to Jupiter" doesn't make it true. Showing random sign holders is about as supportive as me going up to someone and saying Obama eats cat nip. --- --- Also, let's just look at this news for a moment. "Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!” What the heck does that mean? It sounds like Trump is trying to say that he found out Obama "wire tapped" but has "found nothing" to support it. Which is highly likely what happened. Remember, Trump gets a lot of his information from sites like Fox News, Brietbart , and InfoWars. Would it surprise me at all if Trump was watching "InfoWars" a series known for doing outrageous examples of conspiracy theories and have Alex Jones say... "And Obama was wiretapping the Trump Tower!" ...And then he suddenly jumped to the Twitter to start rambling? No, it wouldn't. This is the guy who tries to go off on legitimate new sources calling them fake while using some of the most fake and most corrupt news sources you can get. Edited by EMIYA, Mar 4 2017, 01:54 PM.



Know'm Sayin'	Mar 4 2017, 02:02 PM Post #10
ZERO HOOTS GANG Posts: 248 Group: Member Member #12,785 Joined: November 27, 2015 Gender Male Country Korea Favourite Anime Full House What Browser do you use? Bowser Favourite Manga Billy and Mandy	EMIYA Mar 4 2017, 01:52 PM You know holding up a random sign doesn't make it true right? The same way if I held up a sign saying "I can travel to Jupiter" doesn't make it true. Showing random sign holders is about as supportive as me going up to someone and saying Obama eats cat nip. --- --- Also, let's just look at this news for a moment. "Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!” What the heck does that mean? It sounds like Trump is trying to say that he found out Obama "wire tapped" but has "found nothing" to support it. Which is highly likely what happened. Remember, Trump gets a lot of his information from sites like Fox News, Brietbart , and InfoWars. Would it surprise me at all if Trump was watching "InfoWars" a series known for doing outrageous examples of conspiracy theories and have Alex Jones say... "And Obama was wiretapping the Trump Tower!" ...And then he suddenly jumped to the Twitter to start rambling? No, it wouldn't. This is the guy who tries to go off on legitimate new sources calling them fake while using some of the most fake and most corrupt news sources you can get. Are you seriously gonna pretend that under obama not a single civilian died via drone strike, when in reality it was in the 100's? What a wonderful world you live in.
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+ Emmeth	Mar 4 2017, 02:03 PM Post #11
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Know'm Sayin' Mar 4 2017, 01:43 PM EDIT: Also how was my first comment unnecessary? You ASKED how would we look at obama if that was true and I gave you how I currently feel and most likely will feel even if true. Also since when can we not be critical about someone in politics? I called him a SLIME BALL<<<---- it's not even a cuss word If it's on-topic, it's so far on-topic as it can possibly get. You call Obama a blood thirsty slime ball, which at worst is the same as GW Bush, because he started the this whole thing in the Middle-East. I think Obama was just taking advice from one of his generals on the situation over there. It's nothing worse than what other countries such as Russia and China has done. But with this topic, I digress. It's also off-topic since I never brought up the drones to begin with. When it comes to Trump, he needs to prove this and I doubt he can since he resorted to Twitter first thing. You'd think he'd have some etiquette and resolve this with going public the very last resort. Quote: Are you seriously gonna pretend that under obama not a single civilian died via drone strike, when in reality it was in the 100's? What a wonderful world you live in. That's not the point at all. I'm sure drone strikes have killed civilians in the Middle-East, but there's no reason to say Obama is involved outside of him being CIC. He probably knew about the casualties, but in the hunt for the greater good (ie killing actually terrorists) I'm sure it was a tough call to make. Of course, all of this is hypothetical. You need to find credible sources that it happened. Even if you do find it, it's no cause to call Obama a blood thirsty "slime ball", I'm sure he was doing it for his country and the world. Edited by Emmeth, Mar 4 2017, 02:07 PM.
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EMIYA	Mar 4 2017, 02:05 PM Post #12
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Quote: Are you seriously gonna pretend that under obama not a single civilian died via drone strike, when in reality it was in the 100's? What a wonderful world you live in. Prove it. Give me an actual new source, that says Obama was sending out drones to kill civilians. Plus as Emmeth has said, this is about Trump's interjection that Obama had Trump Tower wiretapped. This has nothing to do with drones or anything so yes, your post was utterly off topic. It's clear to me you just wanted to find some reason to go off on Obama. Edited by EMIYA, Mar 4 2017, 02:07 PM.



+ Steve	Mar 4 2017, 02:08 PM Post #13
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	I doubt it will affect his credibility at all if proven false, if many people already refuse to acknowledge what an ignorant buffoon of a man is in the oval office right now then this won't change their minds. If anything I expect to see more hate towards Obama even if it is false like "Well...Obama probably would have done it! Muh drone strikes! Blegh!" Honestly wouldn't put it past Trump to have found a wire hanging out a lamp or something and figured this was the intelligent deduction.
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Know'm Sayin'	Mar 4 2017, 02:09 PM Post #14
ZERO HOOTS GANG Posts: 248 Group: Member Member #12,785 Joined: November 27, 2015 Gender Male Country Korea Favourite Anime Full House What Browser do you use? Bowser Favourite Manga Billy and Mandy	Emmeth Mar 4 2017, 02:03 PM Know'm Sayin' Mar 4 2017, 01:43 PM EDIT: Also how was my first comment unnecessary? You ASKED how would we look at obama if that was true and I gave you how I currently feel and most likely will feel even if true. Also since when can we not be critical about someone in politics? I called him a SLIME BALL<<<---- it's not even a cuss word If it's on-topic, it's so far on-topic as it can possibly get. You call Obama a blood thirsty slime ball, which at worst is the same as GW Bush, because he started the this whole thing in the Middle-East. I think Obama was just taking advice from one of his generals on the situation over there. It's nothing worse than what other countries such as Russia and China has done. But with this topic, I digress. It's also off-topic since I never brought up the drones to begin with. When it comes to Trump, he needs to prove this and I doubt he can since he resorted to Twitter first thing. You'd think he'd have some etiquette and resolve this with going public the very last resort. Quote: Are you seriously gonna pretend that under obama not a single civilian died via drone strike, when in reality it was in the 100's? What a wonderful world you live in. That's not the point at all. I'm sure drone strikes have killed civilians in the Middle-East, but there's no reason to say Obama is involved outside of him being CIC. He probably knew about the casualties, but in the hunt for the greater good (ie killing actually terrorists) I'm sure it was a tough call to make. Honestly the fact that he took it to twitter is poetic, because America is as transparent as it get and him laying out all on twitter is just who he is at this point.
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Know'm Sayin'	Mar 4 2017, 02:14 PM Post #15
ZERO HOOTS GANG Posts: 248 Group: Member Member #12,785 Joined: November 27, 2015 Gender Male Country Korea Favourite Anime Full House What Browser do you use? Bowser Favourite Manga Billy and Mandy	Quote: Obama was a blood thirsty slime ball that executed Muslims via drone strike https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/01/obama-drones-strikes-civilian-deaths combatants and non-combatants(civilians) Edited by Know'm Sayin', Mar 4 2017, 02:14 PM.
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