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| After training in the ROAST, Gotenks "surpassed Vegeta and the others"? | |
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| SuperSaiyanGodGogeta | Feb 24 2017, 10:02 PM Post #91 |
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@Vertical No, as I said before, you're making a pointless distinction. The animation shows that Abo & Cado aren't far off from the base kids. That's all that matters. Goku's not an idiot. You just don't know what you're talking about. You think that Goku saying that Freeza level power in general being a good challenge for the kids somehow invalidates Tarble's statement of Abo & Cado only being 530k. Power on the level of Freeza's in general would be a good challenge for the kids. That's all his statement implies. Tarble compares Abo & Cado to 1st form Freeza and that power matches Goten and Trunks' base forms. I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand. This is completely ridiculous. It was already stated that the people on the U7 team were the top 10 strongest on earth, making everyone on that team stronger than Goten & Trunks, even Roshi. |
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| SSJ | Feb 24 2017, 10:05 PM Post #92 |
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Why do you always feel the need to say "you don't know what you're talking about", "why is this so hard for you to understand", etc. Do you wonder why people hate taking you seriously? |
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| SuperSaiyanGodGogeta | Feb 24 2017, 10:11 PM Post #93 |
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What are you talking about? Whether Goku knows what Tarble is talking about doesn't change that fact that Abo & Cado are 530k. Nobody here advocating for the kids is making any sense. -Tarble says that Abo & Cado are comparable to 1st form Freeza, putting their power levels around 530k. -Goku says that Freeza level power would be a good challenge for the kids. -Goten and Trunks struggle with Abo & Cado in their base forms. Final form Freeza would be a good challenge for the kids. The kid's base forms are comparable to opponents with a power level of 530k. What's the problem? What exactly are you people arguing against? The arguments I'm seeing are blatantly incoherent. |
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| + Clearin | Feb 24 2017, 10:12 PM Post #94 |
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Tarble never species any particular form of Freeza
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| * Yu Narukami | Feb 24 2017, 10:15 PM Post #95 |
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Izanagi!
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Time: 18:04 Context: Goku tries to convince Vegeta to let Goten fight. Goku: Vegeta if there's two of them, there should be two of us. Vegeta: Trunks will be enough. Goku: True. Very true. Note: Trunks > Abo and Cado Time: 20:14 Context: Goku and Vegeta talks about how the boys beat down Abo and Cado. Goku: Lookin' good, boys! Vegeta: Only expected. Note: Vegeta expected them to beat Freeza tier opponents at Base. Hardly a struggle, really. |
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| SuperSaiyanGodGogeta | Feb 24 2017, 10:24 PM Post #96 |
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Trunks can go Super Saiyan, so obviously he would be enough. Nothing implies that Vegeta is referring purely to base power. Vegeta expected them to outclass 1st form Freeza level power, not final form and you're stretching the statement. The kids are shown visibly tired just like Abo & Cado after their scuffle in which they matched each other blow for blow. Afterwards Abo & Cado states that the kids are pretty good with Trunks returning the compliment. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Feb 24 2017, 10:25 PM Post #97 |
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Is that why he said 'only expected' when Trunks and Goten were fighting Abo and Cado and winning in Base? |
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| SuperSaiyanGodGogeta | Feb 24 2017, 10:32 PM Post #98 |
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The 2 statements have nothing to do with each other. Base Goten and Trunks can beat either Abo or Cado individually. Their one on one performances is what Vegeta said "only expected" to. Trunks and Goten only did what they did because Abo & Cado underestimated them. The rest of the fight was dead even. Trunks was visibly exhausted from a single one on one scuffle. Edited by SuperSaiyanGodGogeta, Feb 24 2017, 10:33 PM.
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| + Saiyan Paladin | Feb 24 2017, 10:33 PM Post #99 |
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Doesn't he specifically tell them not to go Super Saiyan? |
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| SuperSaiyanGodGogeta | Feb 24 2017, 10:34 PM Post #100 |
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No, he doesn't. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Feb 24 2017, 10:35 PM Post #101 |
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No, Trunks obviously met Vegeta's expectations. Do you really think Vegeta's going to big Trunks up and not end up commenting or insulting him if he didn't meet that first expectation? So, you're telling me that both Goku and Vegeta got it wrong? |
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| SuperSaiyanGodGogeta | Feb 24 2017, 10:39 PM Post #102 |
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Nobody got anything wrong. "Trunks will be enough" isn't a statement that excludes Super Saiyan. He never said anything about Trunks beating them simultaneously in base. Trunks never fulfilled any expectation of beating Abo & Cado by himself since Goten joined him. The only expectation that was fulfilled was the kids outclassing 530k's in base 1v1. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Feb 24 2017, 10:43 PM Post #103 |
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Why didn't he tell Trunks to transform at the start, and better yet, why didn't Trunks himself transform if he was going up against both of them by himself? |
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| SuperSaiyanGodGogeta | Feb 24 2017, 10:45 PM Post #104 |
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I'm not seeing how that's a relevant question. He can transform anytime he wants. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Feb 24 2017, 10:47 PM Post #105 |
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Izanagi!
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Vegeta wants Trunks to get beat up before finishing the match? If he needs to go SSJ to comfortably beat the two, starting off in Base doesn't make any sense whatsoever. |
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