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After training in the ROAST, Gotenks "surpassed Vegeta and the others"?
Topic Started: Feb 23 2017, 08:14 PM (5,569 Views)
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Feb 24 2017, 05:07 AM
Goku tells Fat Boo that someone stronger than him will appear.

Goku tells Piccolo that Gotenks won't need the RoSaT for Fat Boo.

Goku leaves the Earth under the impression he can never return, never seeing Gotenks, but confident that he will win.

Goku is a HUGE piece of s*** if Gotenks is weaker than Vegeta.
Nope. All of this is fan delirium.

Majin Vegeta > SSj Gotenks pre. Stated.
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Feb 24 2017, 05:07 AM
Goku tells Fat Boo that someone stronger than him will appear.

Goku tells Piccolo that Gotenks won't need the RoSaT for Fat Boo.

Goku leaves the Earth under the impression he can never return, never seeing Gotenks, but confident that he will win.

Goku is a HUGE piece of s*** if Gotenks is weaker than Vegeta.
Doesn't matter. Daizenshuu > original source material.
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Yeah, I can already tell people are going to start twisting logic hard.

We have an official statement saying that Gotenks was weaker than Vegeta until he went into the rosat. That ends the discussion on the matter.

None of the arguments proposing Gotenks being stronger than Vegeta let alone Goku pre rosat make any sense, they never made any sense when you looked at the context correctly and there is official statement shooting the notion down, so the logic that you would have to twist to come to the conclusion isn't even relevant.

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Goku fans tend not to mind that for whatever reason. It's acceptable so long as Gotenks ends up weaker than him. I don't know how or why, but s*** happens.

If we found a note from Toriyama's desk during the time he wrote the manga and it specifically said Gotenks was merely a joke character and was never meant to be taken seriously (power-wise), I would crack my knuckles and call it a day. But the Daizenshuu's contradictory word on it is meaningless without proper authority.
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Feb 24 2017, 05:12 AM
#baited
More like #stated, as Majin Vegeta > SSj Gotenks pre is stated.
Edited by ryan1227, Feb 24 2017, 05:14 AM.
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Feb 24 2017, 05:12 AM
Yeah, I can already tell people are going to start twisting logic hard.

We have an official statement saying that Gotenks was weaker than Vegeta until he went into the rosat. That ends the discussion on the matter.

None of the arguments proposing Gotenks being stronger than Vegeta let alone Goku pre rosat make any sense, they never made any sense when you looked at the context correctly and there is official statement shooting the notion down, so the logic that you would have to twist to come to the conclusion isn't even relevant.

Stated by who? Maybe in your schizophrenic fantasy land Toriyama is whispering things into your ear, but in the real world none of this is stated anywhere. Get real.
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It's a little funny how Goku's fans want to make him the strongest at the expense of making him the most idiot.
Edited by ahill1, Feb 24 2017, 05:20 AM.
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It's not just making Goku look like an idiot, it's themselves too. Posted Image
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If you wanna get real, Gotenks > Goku was originally, officially stated. Goku himself told Piccolo the fusion will be stronger than himself.

Where did that line come from? Who wrote it?
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Thing is, nothing that anyone here is saying supports their stance when read in the correct context. The Daizenshuu doesn't disagree with the manga or any other source. It disagrees with your interpretation and that's it.
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But it agrees with yours, so it becomes factual. Posted Image
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Feb 24 2017, 05:21 AM
If you wanna get real, Gotenks > Goku was originally, officially stated. Goku himself told Piccolo the fusion will be stronger than himself.

Where did that line come from? Who wrote it?
That line came from someone's biased rectum after a bad encounter at a daycare. They had to take out their hatred of children on poor little Gotenks after someone told them to write an article for some stupid kids manga called Dragon Ball.
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Nah, my interpretation is built around what's stated in official sources.

There's really no helping anyone if they think that a statement that Goku told Boo to keep him from destroying earth was an admission of inferiority to a fusion that he wouldn't even know the strength of.
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That same Daizenshuu you covet says Goten was every bit as strong as Gohan, or do you ignore that one because it doesn't fit your interpretation?
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