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After training in the ROAST, Gotenks "surpassed Vegeta and the others"?
Topic Started: Feb 23 2017, 08:14 PM (5,570 Views)
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It says Gotenks only surpassed Vegeta after entering the rosat. No amount of mental gymnastics is going to change that. SSJ Gotenks is Gotenks. Using the same ridiculous argument, I could just say that the quote only refers to Base Vegeta.

You're saying that Gotenks was already stronger than Vegeta before entering the rosat, but that's wrong since the opposite is what's enforced on an official level.
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Is Base Gotenks not Gotenks?

People who follow the guidebooks to a T are the delusional 0.0001% of the fandom that need to be driven back to YouTube. Leave forums alone please.
Edited by SSJ, Feb 24 2017, 04:39 AM.
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The ones that follow guidebooks to the letter are the ones that come up with the most delirious excuses because of the mistakes and contradictions in said guidebooks. At least the guys using it as secondary material—and not on the same level as the manga—have some leverage in select discussions. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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"Surpassed Vegeta and the others" is pretty silly to begin with. It's very vague, who are the others, and what Vegeta? Which Gotenks?

Edited by Saiyan Paladin, Feb 24 2017, 04:58 AM.
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Feb 24 2017, 04:51 AM
"Surpassed Vegeta and the others" is pretty silly to begin with. It's very vague, who are the others, and what Vegeta?
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ryan1227
Feb 24 2017, 04:53 AM
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Feb 24 2017, 04:51 AM
"Surpassed Vegeta and the others" is pretty silly to begin with. It's very vague, who are the others, and what Vegeta?
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Videl > pre-BBQ Gotenks if we're stretching this thing wide open.
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Gotenks didn't surpass Vegeta until he entered the rosat. Base Gotenks and SSJ Gotenks aren't separate characters, so nope, pointless distinction. SSJ is a part of Gotenks' power. Vegeta>pre rosat Gotenks.

Not seeing why I would take fan speculation that reeks with bias over official material. People make excuses to not listen to the author's direct word yet fan speculation is to be taken seriously? Nope.
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Bear Bandit > SSJ Gotenks pre. You can't prove me wrong,
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SuperSaiyanGodGogeta
Feb 24 2017, 04:57 AM
People make excuses to not listen to the author's direct word yet fan speculation is to be taken seriously? Nope.
You're the only one not taking the author's words seriously, pal.
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Caramel Mama/Kisousha is not the author of Dragon Ball.
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The author never stated that pre rosat Gotenks was stronger than Vegeta. That's just more fan delirium that comes with stretching character statements far beyond their intended meaning.
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Where did the author state your opinion? Please do more research and return.
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The author didn't state pre Rosat Gotenks was stronger than Videl either.
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Goku tells Fat Boo that someone stronger than him will appear.

Goku tells Piccolo that Gotenks won't need the RoSaT for Fat Boo.

Goku leaves the Earth under the impression he can never return, never seeing Gotenks, but confident that he will win.

Goku is a HUGE piece of s*** if Gotenks is weaker than Vegeta.
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Here we go again. "The manga contradicts my personal powerscaling so I'm gonna compensate by turning smart characters into idiots, but only temporarily so it fits what I have but doesn't change them overall".
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