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Buu's Destructive Power
Topic Started: Feb 18 2017, 07:21 AM (1,078 Views)
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How destructive is his power to you guys?

For me I have him multi solar system level high end, casually on large star level and low end large planet level. Biasness though, I have him half small galaxy level (50 million stars).
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Buu>beerus 75 million years ago who was already multi galaxy level

Don't quote me on this but, for what it's worth, in dbz/Kai, when elder Kai, kabito Kai and dende left supreme Kai world, they left the entire realm incase it would be destroyed. Not sure if that's 100% accurate and I'm not sure if it's in the manga. I remember something like that from when I saw the scene couple weeks ago

They do leave the realm in the manga too because they'll be safer but I'm not sure if it's because of the fight or because buu had instant transmission and could find them if they weren't far enough
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As far as I'm concerned he can only destroy a couple of planets at the same time right now, and that's it, but even Cell would've been able to do that, though the amount of planets either of those guys could destroy is unknown.
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Ssj3Vegito96- That's a realistic possibility. The Kaioshin Realm is 1/10th the size of the macrocosm (Dragon Ball universe) and both Beerus and Kid Buu could've destroyed it. Not to mention Buu was gonna destroy the afterlife & heaven, which is estimated to be infinite in size.

Darker- Why you have him so weak? Super Perfect Cell is already solar system level but you have Kid Buu much weaker despite him being a threat to the universe to an extent that the Kaioshin were all worried about, abx stepped in to stop him. In order for him to be dangerous he has to, at least, be able to destroy large stars like UY Scuti or even Rigel.
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SPC is solar system? Why? Because he said so? A lot of things contradict that statement, and you probably know what these things are.

In any case, the Kaioshin was most likely afraid because Boo is a tireless and ageless creature, so he can go around a universe without losing energy or getting older. He could easily destroy everything within a universe in a matter of years, unless he decides to mess around with others, which is possible.
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The actual level of destruction would be the same as pretty much Vegeta, Freeza, Cell, etc...planetary. There seems to be kind of a limit in scope of what a character can naturally do destructively,. They may hold the necessary power in terms of ki, but due to the vast distances space offers. It gets to a point where attacks don't get larger, they just happen to hold more and more ki and power.

Look at Goku's Genki Dama against Freeza and Boo. both were relatively the same size...I may even argue the one against Freeza was larger. However the power behind the one against Boo was clearly vastly greater but its impact was barely more than what we saw several arcs earlier. It's like when Cell says he can blow up the solar system.

For one, there's many ways of interpreting that. But Cell isn't literally going to fire a KHH and have the blast radius spread from the earth to all 9 planets out to Pluto. If you can condense the solar system into one point, perhaps.

So in the end, Boo may have a lot of compact, destructive power that is condensed. If you could condense solar systems down and remove the vast space between them, Boo might be able to do something. But no matter how powerful he is, the issues of distance are going to prevent him from directly destroying something like a solar system, much less a galaxy.
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It's extremely destructive, he's a primordial goo demon that terrorized the gods even, and likely a danger to the entire galaxy.

In terms of other versus however...

Planetary, sun if you believe Cell. Because Dragon Ball isn't very interested in 20 meter type feats, they do X>Y>Z type feats. Dragon Ball has never been about how much they can blow up, it's about how well they fight, and planetary destruction is good enough to make them a threat to everything the heroes care about.
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Darker- There's nothing presented in the franchise that contradicts Cell's statement but if you have something, I would like to see. How could Buu destroy everything in a couple of years while he is at best massively hypersonic and can only destroy a couple of planets? It'll take eons upon eons for Buu to accomplish that feat.

EMIYA- "But Cell isn't literally going to fire a KHH and have the blast radius spread from the earth to all 9 planets out to Pluto. If you can condense the solar system into one point, perhaps."

How do you figure he can't literally do so? Cell proclaimed he could do so in it's entirety and even a guidebook or two backs the claim. Now I don't have see a problem with your train of thought unless you think he couldn't at least destroy our sun at the very least, cause a solar system includes having celestial object(s) orbiting a star and just getting rid of the planets doesn't qualify as being a solar system buster, that's just multi planetary.

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Darker- There's nothing presented in the franchise that contradicts Cell's statement but if you have something, I would like to see. How could Buu destroy everything in a couple of years while he is at best massively hypersonic and can only destroy a couple of planets? It'll take eons upon eons for Buu to accomplish that feat.

EMIYA- "But Cell isn't literally going to fire a KHH and have the blast radius spread from the earth to all 9 planets out to Pluto. If you can condense the solar system into one point, perhaps."

How do you figure he can't literally do so? Cell proclaimed he could do so in it's entirety and even a guidebook or two backs the claim. Now I don't have see a problem with your train of thought unless you think he couldn't at least destroy our sun at the very least, cause a solar system includes having celestial object(s) orbiting a star and just getting rid of the planets doesn't qualify as being a solar system buster, that's just multi planetary.

He's launching a Kamehameha. If he was intending to blow up the Solar System, that's literally the most useless method of doing it. He just says that he's gathered enough energy to 'blow away' the Solar System, right? He doesn't specify actually doing so using this method of attack.
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I don't think it was ever said he would destroy the solar system. Only that he had the power in it

Why is it so important that he needs to be able to do it? You know a blast like the KHH with that much power condensed is a lot more useful in a fight than huge explosions right?
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Nagito- I don't know, I've seen multiple comments in the series stating that an attack the user is wielding is capable of destroying a target. I don't see why I have to doubt Cell could do so with the Kamehameha, he made the statement while charging the Kamehameha.

Ssj3Vegito96- Why would he even mention the solar system if he couldn't destroy it? Cell was planning on destroying it along with Gohan and the planet. It wasn't to be a fight, if that was the case there be no need for a beam struggle, no need for absurb charge time etc.
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Idk. To say "look, this is how much power is in this blast. You and your planet are f***ed"

I'm not totally against him being able to do it. I just think the KHH wouldn't have that kind of AOE. It's never been able to explode and expand its energy that much has it? As far as I remember it's always been more a big hammer
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Honestly though as far as majin buu goes...he's got to be at least multi solar system level. And really fast too. There's no way this guy can be a serious threat to the entire universe if he's planet level and hypersonic in speed. Like...I know he can live forever but it would take a hundreds of thousands of years minimum for him to do that wouldn't it?

He should either be solar system level+ or way faster than light. I doubt fat buu, which is when the idea of him being threat to the entire universe starter, is faster than light in travel speed. Not even gotenks was
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There's no way this guy can be a serious threat to the entire universe if he's planet level and hypersonic in speed. Like...I know he can live forever but it would take a hundreds of thousands of years minimum for him to do that wouldn't it?


Considering ki attacks have incredible range and can go really far without losing energy, I imagine destroying the universe would be a walk in the park for someone like Boo, who doesn't get tired and wouldn't lose energy after shooting hundreds of ki attacks all at once, possbibly causing stars to explode or multiple planets to collapse with each other, as impossible as that may sound for the likes of Boo, he still has magic, and in most forms, was quite sadistic, meaning that there are many ways he could've endangered the people of the universe.

At least Freeza had no qualms outside of where his galactic empire stood, he would've never gone on a rampage destroying everything, and Cell just wanted to fight and beat strong dudes to prove he was the best strong dude around, not randomly blow up planets. Boo wanted to cause non-stop genocide after genocide only for his own sick amusement.
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I think it's nothing more than an assumption saying he was going to desteoy the solar system with that attack. Having the power to destroy the solar system and blowing it up with a single blast are two very different things.

Cell has limited stamina unlike Boo. I believe Cell meant that, without tiring out completely, he could destroy it over a certain amount of time. Boo could destroy the universe without tiring out potentially.
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