I think I found a cap on how strong SSJG Goku can be (anime).

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I think I found a cap on how strong SSJG Goku can be (anime).
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Slifer	Feb 15 2017, 11:50 AM Post #1
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	This difference between Super and the RoF movie just occurred to me. In the movie, Goku uses IT via locking on to Freeza's ki, but in Super he can't find anything until SSJ Gohan powers up, meaning he couldn't sense Freeza prior. That suggests SSJ Gohan at that point was stronger than first form Freeza. For the sake of this topic let's establish one thing: - Base Goku and final form Freeza > SSJG. And assume two: - Gohan was briefly able to regain his Ultimate Power. - Freeza wasn't suppressed while in his first form. With that we can get something like this: desperate SSJ/Ultimate Gohan: 100 Super Boo: 75 First form Freeza: 75 (for simplicity) Final form: ~17,000 SSJG Goku: Less than 17,000 Boohan: 175 SSJ Vegetto: at least 350 SSJ3 Vegetto: at least 2800 SSJG Goku can feasibly be less than 10x Boo-arc SSJ3 Vegetto. It's can get a bit close when you factor in BoG-arc Vegetto > Boo-arc, but it can work.



Goddess Ultimecia	Feb 15 2017, 12:11 PM Post #2
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	The issue I find here is that Freeza wasn't surprised whatsoever at Gohan hulking out and according to what you have here, getting stronger than his first form. He didn't even raise so much as an eyebrow.
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+ Pyrus	Feb 15 2017, 04:19 PM Post #3
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Why would he be surprised?
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+ Clearin	Feb 15 2017, 04:31 PM Post #4
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Goku sensed everyones ki in the movie. Roshi, Gohan, Krillin, Tien and Piccolo all powered up for him to sense them.



SuperSaiyanGodGogeta	Feb 15 2017, 05:32 PM Post #5
Posts: 1,228 Group: Member Member #11,951 Joined: December 29, 2014 Gender Male	Not sure what Boo arc Vegito has to do with anything nor some hypothetical SSJ3 form that he isn't implied to have, but neither Base Goku or Final form Freeza are as powerful as SSJG goku. Not even close. There isn't anything that would even point to that since the narrative has Tien question whether Goku's stronger than before only after using SSB. SSJG Goku: 15,000,000 Base Goku: 1,000 Final form Freeza: 900 SSJ Vegito would be somewhere around "27,000".
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Feb 15 2017, 09:24 PM Post #6
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Ssj3 goku was already stronger than gohan and gotenks before turning ssjg. Even in the BOG movie roshi compared Rageta to goku not mystic gohan. The next step was surpassing ssj3 vegito by a decent amount. That's big but it doesn't warrant some huge 50,000x multiplier like some people give it
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+ Pyrus	Feb 15 2017, 09:42 PM Post #7
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Ssj3vegito96 Feb 15 2017, 09:24 PM Ssj3 goku was already stronger than gohan and gotenks before turning ssjg. Even in the BOG movie roshi compared Rageta to goku not mystic gohan. The next step was surpassing ssj3 vegito by a decent amount. That's big but it doesn't warrant some huge 50,000x multiplier like some people give it Given their rivalry, I wouldn't put it past Roshi to do such a comparison. Surpassing Gohan may have been a benchmark, but surpassing Goku meant more narratively.
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Feb 15 2017, 10:13 PM Post #8
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Yeah I agree about the BOG movie. But in the Super anime there's no way around beerus comparing rageta to goku as far as I know. And the fact that the Super anime seems to be in line with dbz Kai with all the filler it has Honestly I always thought it was kinda weird for goku to turn ssjg if he's weaker than gohan Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Feb 15 2017, 10:16 PM.
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