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| ahill1 | Feb 14 2017, 02:29 AM Post #16 |
 
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#19 (post) not living to the rumors might only imply he couldn't kick Mecha saga Trunks' a***, not that he couldn't defeat him at all. |
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| SuperSaiyanGodGogeta | Feb 14 2017, 02:35 AM Post #17 |
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No, that doesn't make any sense. The rumors are that Trunks can't defeat them. They don't live up to that rumor. I don't know how much more simple it can get. |
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| ahill1 | Feb 14 2017, 03:17 AM Post #18 |
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It's also stated Trunks considers them monsters with unbelievable power, not to mention only having a "little hope" when knowing Goku would train for three years. It doesn't imply the androids are only slightly above Trunks. So, Vegeta can very well question #19's post absorptions power if he is just barely able to defeat Trunks, thus, not being a monster by his son's standards. |
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| Vertical | Feb 14 2017, 03:57 AM Post #19 |
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[Expected] Androids >>> [Post-Yardrat] Goku ...there's a lot of space there for them to fall under "Not as bad as the rumours"... none of it necessarily on the lower side of Goku, let alone Trunks. |
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| SuperSaiyanGodGogeta | Feb 14 2017, 04:10 AM Post #20 |
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@ahill You're still not saying anything that makes sense. The tale was that Trunks, a Super Saiyan couldn't beat them. That's the rumor. The rest about them being monsters is part of that, but it's not even relevant to the point at hand. Vegeta says that their legends far outstrip their realities(which means the rumors were false). He didn't pick and choose what parts of the rumors were false. That doesn't even make sense to assert. He merely said that the rumors were false, which means that all of the rumors were false based on their movements. |
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| SSJ | Feb 14 2017, 04:44 AM Post #21 |
 
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Every single one of your posts, brother. 
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| ahill1 | Feb 14 2017, 04:53 AM Post #22 |
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Not just unbeatable by Trunks, but they are also implied to be considerably above post Yardrat Goku, seeing how Trunks isn't all that confident of Goku's victory even knowing he will be training for the fight of his life. If the power Goku displayed there was enough to beat the androids, then all the talking of training to change the future would be nonsensical, as well as Trunks' reactions to Yardrat Goku, who only expresses how his power is greater than the rumors, but still a work in progress. So no, barely being able to beat Trunks isn't all them warriors were expecting, part by how Trunks describes their powers and part by how it's made clear Goku has no chances against those threats unless he put his ***** into his training. |
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| SuperSaiyanGodGogeta | Feb 14 2017, 04:58 AM Post #23 |
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That doesn't disprove anything I said. Everything you're saying was part of the rumors. Vegeta stated that they don't match the rumors. You didn't disprove anything, you just added more things to the pile that #19 and #20 didn't live up to. |
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| ahill1 | Feb 14 2017, 05:20 AM Post #24 |
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Uh, you said #19 not being as bad as the rumors meant he wasn't able to beat Mecha Saga Trunks and that's it. That isn't necessarily true, considering the rumors were that those androids also couldn't possibly be defeated by post Yardrat Goku, a folk visibly stronger than Mecha saga Trunks. So #19 (post) being, for example, slightly above Trunks, but still slightly below Yardrat Goku, or even equal to this latter works just fine. |
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| SuperSaiyanGodGogeta | Feb 14 2017, 05:29 AM Post #25 |
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No, that doesn't make sense since Vegeta says otherwise. Vegeta states that they didn't live up to the rumors. The rumors encompass everything that was said about them including Trunks not being able to beat them. You don't get to pick and choose specifically which parts you think they did and didn't fulfill. |
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| ahill1 | Feb 14 2017, 06:23 AM Post #26 |
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Except the rumors doesn't have to be centred around Trunks. Being considerably stronger than post Yardrat Goku includes everything, since Yardrat Goku was the top dog there. If fighter A is said to be able to not only beat fighter B, but also beat someone even stronger with ease (fighter C), but end up only barely beating fighter B, then he doesn't live up to the rumors, even though beating fighter B was fulfilled... the thing is, the rumors weren't solely it. |
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| SuperSaiyanGodGogeta | Feb 14 2017, 06:41 AM Post #27 |
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You're making this far more complicated than it actually is for no reason other than bias. Trunks is brought up specifically as not being able to beat them. That is part of the rumor. Nobody said anything about the rumors revolving purely around Trunks. It's not the only part of the rumors, but it doesn't really matter when #19 and #20 are stated to not live up to any of them. Android arc Vegeta>Android arc Goku>Yardrat Goku>Android arc Trunks=Mecha arc Trunks>>Androids #19 and #20 That's the only correct interpretation. Edited by SuperSaiyanGodGogeta, Feb 14 2017, 06:41 AM.
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| Vertical | Feb 14 2017, 08:07 AM Post #28 |
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Except all of that is overturned by Piccolo. Piccolo believes he is ready to face an opponent far greater than [Post-Yardrat] SSJ Goku. Piccolo >~ [Expected] Androids >>> [Post-Yardrat] SSJ Goku ...and yet Trunks is still grouped above Piccolo, with the other SSJs. SSJ Vegeta >= SSJ Goku > SSJ Trunks >/>> Piccolo So... |
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| + Pyrus | Feb 14 2017, 08:13 AM Post #29 |
 
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Picollo's an idiot? 
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| Slifer | Feb 14 2017, 08:19 AM Post #30 |
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Well he did believe someone weaker than 50% Freeza, and by extension himself had a chance against Super Boo so yeah I guess he is. Ignore the overwhelming amount of time he's been right about powerscaling because they don't matter. |
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