Is Karl Marx Right?

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Is Karl Marx Right?
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Political Piper	Feb 8 2017, 01:32 AM Post #1
Posts: 449 Group: Member Member #13,465 Joined: August 23, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Chrome	I had a debate with my buddy a while back in which I presented a hypothesis. Mind you, this was before I knew a lot of Marx's teachings. Needless to say, I was completely ignorant that my hypothesis was part of Marxist teachings. We were discussing economic systems and the future of them. My argument was that technology and jobs are inversely proportional. The more technology advances, like Moore's Law, the less jobs their will be because technology will replace those jobs. Therefore, is socialism the only sustainable economic system in the future? The world population is rapidly growing, computer power doubles every 18 months, technology advances rapidly. Eventually we will become so sophisticated that there may not be enough for everyone in the future. Marx stated (I'm paraphrasing) that with the ever increasing changes in society including population growth, the socialist ideology is the only the way to adequately take care of people and maintain the homeostasis of a country. Capitalism will die and socialism will be the only concept that works. Thoughts?
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Daemon Keido	Feb 8 2017, 01:42 AM Post #2
Warmaster of Chaos Posts: 3,915 Group: RP Moderator Member #6,491 Joined: July 16, 2011 Gender Male Country Canada Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, of course Favourite Manga Currently Toriko	I think Marx had a basis in truth but I wonder if his philoophy would change with the technological advancement that happened after his death. I personally think a gestalt between socialism and capitalism will become the standard. I am unsure how exactly it will look but my altruism would hope for something akin to Star Trek's Federation.
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EMIYA	Feb 8 2017, 02:41 AM Post #3
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	One of the funny things is that Marx was not against the ideology of Capitalism. In fact, he admits that to obtain the actual impact of socialism as he sees it, Capitalism is a necessary step to that direction. He even goes as far as to say that if there's any country close to a correct form of socialism, it is the USA. It was the idea that Capitalism was going to build up this huge surplus that would then lead to the development and organization of Socialism. In the end, the technological boom is going to keep producing more materials...says cars for example...and that surplus of material is going to get larger and larger and larger. Then it would set the point where Socialism could take over and utilize that surplus to its own goals. One could think of it as the step forward. Captialism was needed to start things, to create the huge surplus as stated and then it would be brought over to Socialism.



lazerbem	Feb 8 2017, 02:23 PM Post #4
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	It's not that simple. In context of the time, capitalism was saintly compared to feudalism. Furthermore, capitalism was a means to an end by making the proletariat realize their chains through capitalistic abuses. I believe this is what the discussion around dialectics focused on.
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