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Should women be able to exploit sexuality?
Tweet Topic Started: Jan 22 2017, 07:12 PM (2,901 Views)
+ Ssj3vegito96	Jan 22 2017, 09:37 PM Post #16
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Spreading your legs for money is frowned upon for a reason. It's easy but at the cost of self respect
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Political Piper	Jan 22 2017, 09:40 PM Post #17
Posts: 449 Group: Member Member #13,465 Joined: August 23, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Chrome	I agree with you. I still maintain that America is slowly devolving into a Sodom and Gomorrah type place. People laugh at that but if you compare what's on TV now compared to 50 years ago, you would see it's completely different. Likewise, the same can be said in normal day-to-day public discourse.. But yeah, I agree that it shouldn't work and it does..
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* Yu Narukami	Jan 22 2017, 09:41 PM Post #18
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	I mean, if there's an issue with image and society, well, that's an issue with society, isn't it? If society sees to judge all women and degrade their position in its eyes just because some women decide to pursue a certain line of work, then it's not women's fault at all.



Daemon Keido	Jan 22 2017, 09:43 PM Post #19
Warmaster of Chaos Posts: 3,915 Group: RP Moderator Member #6,491 Joined: July 16, 2011 Gender Male Country Canada Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, of course Favourite Manga Currently Toriko	Political Piper Jan 22 2017, 09:40 PM I agree with you. I still maintain that America is slowly devolving into a Sodom and Gomorrah type place. People laugh at that but if you compare what's on TV now compared to 50 years ago, you would see it's completely different. Likewise, the same can be said in normal day-to-day public discourse.. But yeah, I agree that it shouldn't work and it does.. The 60's was not the wholesome time you think it was, dude.
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Political Piper	Jan 22 2017, 09:56 PM Post #20
Posts: 449 Group: Member Member #13,465 Joined: August 23, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Chrome	Daemon Keido Jan 22 2017, 09:43 PM Political Piper Jan 22 2017, 09:40 PM I agree with you. I still maintain that America is slowly devolving into a Sodom and Gomorrah type place. People laugh at that but if you compare what's on TV now compared to 50 years ago, you would see it's completely different. Likewise, the same can be said in normal day-to-day public discourse.. But yeah, I agree that it shouldn't work and it does.. The 60's was not the wholesome time you think it was, dude. Okay? Can you show me some TV segments from the 60's that compare to those today? What about movies? I'm not being rhetorical I am really curious. I took a Film Composition course in college where we had to watch older movies, I don't recall any of them being comparable to today's?
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Tinny	Jan 22 2017, 09:59 PM Post #21
Posts: 6,060 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	Political Piper Jan 22 2017, 09:40 PM I agree with you. I still maintain that America is slowly devolving into a Sodom and Gomorrah type place. People laugh at that but if you compare what's on TV now compared to 50 years ago, you would see it's completely different. Likewise, the same can be said in normal day-to-day public discourse.. But yeah, I agree that it shouldn't work and it does.. Personally I think as long as we don't try to rape God's angels, we should be fine. As for the topic itself, in terms of being a sex worker or porn actress, yes. If there is a market, and it's not hurting anyone (porn and prostitution don't hurt people), there's no reason someone shouldn't be able to pursue it. The only problem I feel is probably the stigma attached to it if anything, and the lack of protection and regulation around it making it more dangerous than it should be. If there was less of a stigma, I believe these places and the men and women that work there would be safer and live healthier lives. While I'm at it, I don't see the point in ostracizing those who write/draw erotica either, once again, who are they hurting and how? And what's with the wording anyway? Exploit sounds like quite the weighted term with implications behind it. Edited by Tinny, Jan 22 2017, 10:01 PM.
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Daemon Keido	Jan 22 2017, 10:02 PM Post #22
Warmaster of Chaos Posts: 3,915 Group: RP Moderator Member #6,491 Joined: July 16, 2011 Gender Male Country Canada Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, of course Favourite Manga Currently Toriko	Political Piper Jan 22 2017, 09:56 PM Daemon Keido Jan 22 2017, 09:43 PM Political Piper Jan 22 2017, 09:40 PM I agree with you. I still maintain that America is slowly devolving into a Sodom and Gomorrah type place. People laugh at that but if you compare what's on TV now compared to 50 years ago, you would see it's completely different. Likewise, the same can be said in normal day-to-day public discourse.. But yeah, I agree that it shouldn't work and it does.. The 60's was not the wholesome time you think it was, dude. Okay? Can you show me some TV segments from the 60's that compare to those today? What about movies? I'm not being rhetorical I am really curious. I took a Film Composition course in college where we had to watch older movies, I don't recall any of them being comparable to today's? I would argue the Civil Rights Movement and the horrors that protrayed which were at the time ignored are far more important than a woman baring her breasts for ten seconds. Simply put, your morals and my morals are not the majority. All the same, a job is a job and so long as it was agreed to consentingly, I don't care if a woman is a porn star or a prostitute.
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* Yu Narukami	Jan 22 2017, 10:11 PM Post #23
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	There's a miiiii~iiiighty slippery slope in this here topic. Prostitution and the like are two-way streets. There's obviously a market for it, so are you going to blame to people taking advantage of that, just like any business takes advantage of a demand for a certain service or product? The way I see it, there are two options; - We continue with this stigma surrounding sexual matters like this - We accept that as a society there's a demand and we allow people to voluntarily supply those services. It's going to happen whether people like it or not, so isn't having a system in place with protections much better?



Dankness Lava	Jan 23 2017, 12:03 AM Post #24
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	All I know is, I wouldn't approach someone involved with the various sex-based jobs about it, even though I take issue with the concept of it. If they want to do such acts for money, well, that's on them.



Political Piper	Jan 23 2017, 12:44 AM Post #25
Posts: 449 Group: Member Member #13,465 Joined: August 23, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Chrome	Daemon Keido Jan 22 2017, 10:02 PM Simply put, your morals and my morals are not the majority. All the same, a job is a job and so long as it was agreed to consentingly, I don't care if a woman is a porn star or a prostitute. I agree with the porn star but I adamantly disagree with prostitution. About 40% of prostitutes started off as child prostitutes either forcefully or runaways. Many people who are prostitutes also are at risk, and put others at risk, for STD's and other diseases; many are also avid drug uses and victims of violence. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I don't think we should look at prostitution as merely a job because two consenting adults agreed to it. The act itself may seem fine but when you take into account the detrimental consequences that usually coincide with prostitution, I think we'd be better off trying to help those people, and not simply say, "well it's a choice between two consenting adults. Who are we to ruin that for them?" EDIT: Being a porn star is legal. Being a prostitute is illegal - in the US anyways. I think it's legal in Sweden, I don't know about Canada? Some statistics Some More Spoiler: click to toggle With a higher instance of physical violence perpetrated against them, female prostitutes are more likely to get murdered. In a period of five years in Newark, New Jersey, 14 homicide victims were known prostitutes. That is an incredibly high figure in a city of 280,000 residents with an average annual murder rate of 7 homicides per 100,000 persons. Roughly 26% of New York City prostitutes were homeless and addicted to illicit drugs. They had to resort to prostitution to serve their addiction to hard drugs like crack, cocaine, and heroin. 90% of New York City prostitutes had to give away at least one child to child protective services. Edited by Political Piper, Jan 23 2017, 12:47 AM.
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Daemon Keido	Jan 23 2017, 01:12 AM Post #26
Warmaster of Chaos Posts: 3,915 Group: RP Moderator Member #6,491 Joined: July 16, 2011 Gender Male Country Canada Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, of course Favourite Manga Currently Toriko	I never said forced prostitution was something I agreed with. Besides, the only major difference between a porn scene and a consented prostitution trick is the presence of a camera, a film crew, a full payroll and a permit to do all of the former at once. Yes, let's crack down on the pimps who forced people into prostitution (which is better described as sex slavery by that point) but there is nothing inherently immoral about prostitution to someone nonreligious, because most negative connotations with prostitution is founded on relgious doctrine first, and then on criminal acts of sexual slavery.
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Meowth	Jan 23 2017, 01:53 AM Post #27
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	Sex sells, if people are willing to pay for it, why not? Prostitution should be a legal and acceptable job for everyone, the state makes tax from income and the needed protections are put in place. If it's not seen as dirty, or slutty, the opinions change. You also don't need to be good looking to make money out of sex.



Seruphim	Jan 23 2017, 03:04 AM Post #28
Cell's Angel Posts: 3,242 Group: Goddess Member #867 Joined: November 15, 2005 Country United States Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome	I probably won't get into deep of a discussion on this. However, women do have agency over their own bodies, so yes they should be able to use their own body however they like. If people pay for it, they do, that's their business. Why is it bad to profit off of these things if you're willing and able?



Sam	Jan 23 2017, 11:52 AM Post #29
It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash. Posts: 24,391 Group: Community Admin Member #415 Joined: April 21, 2005 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z/Super, Hellsing Ultimate, Naruto/Shippuden, Death Note, Hunter x Hunter, FMA:B What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball/Z/Super, Naruto/Shippuden, One Piece, Hellsing, Death Note	Nagito Komaeda Jan 22 2017, 09:41 PM I mean, if there's an issue with image and society, well, that's an issue with society, isn't it? If society sees to judge all women and degrade their position in its eyes just because some women decide to pursue a certain line of work, then it's not women's fault at all. This. This. This. People should be allowed to do what they want. I have a very liberal view on this extending to all rights that one person expresses with their own body that would be considered rather extreme - however, this subject isn't so extreme. Prostitution should be legal and that's the end of it, in my opinion. Or not frowned upon. Women, as Seruphim said, should be allowed to do whatever with their bodies. Forced prostitution is another thing - that's disgusting. But honestly, it's a woman's body; it's a woman's choice. Why should a man have much of a weighted opinion on the subject? Edited by Sam, Jan 23 2017, 11:53 AM.
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+ Pointer	Jan 23 2017, 12:19 PM Post #30
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Steve Jan 22 2017, 07:12 PM As in, discounting actual sex workers such as porn stars and escorts, should women be allowed to exploit their sexuality so easily for personal/monetary gain? Seems absurdly easy for any good looking women to get rich if she's willing to show off her body. For instance there's a number of female YouTubers who make videos such as "Sex tape at 1 mil subs" where they'll put up a video of them having sex on porn sites if a million people subscribe to them, which gets them millions of subscribers in a matter of months/weeks. This can net them upwards of $50,000 per month, not including revenue from the actual porn sites. Something most people put years of hard work in to. Should this kind of stuff be acceptable? Many say "If it works why not?" but it's not even fair towards other women since these ones are really just lucky that they're attractive, they need not be intelligent or talented at all. I feel like sex based media and social media should never really interact because it's so easy to abuse one to profit in the other. Sex will always be a big thing but I hope we can move past this as a society, it's pretty sad how blatantly easy it is. and what if she quit the videos? ... The number of the subscribers would fall considerably On the other hand it is justifiable whether it is a acceptable or not ... I mean youtube has some decent policies when it comes to paying and such Edited by Pointer, Jan 23 2017, 12:21 PM.



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