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SSJ Blue Vegito vs Merged Zamasu
Topic Started: Jan 10 2017, 09:10 AM (3,785 Views)
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Vegetto outright states he's going to finish it with the Final Kamehameha and used up all of his ki to do so. And it literally did jack worth to Zamasu in the end. He came out completely unharmed. In fact he didn't even bother looking at Vegetto, more content to raise his arms and praise himself. No matter how you look at it, Vegetto tried to finish it off, and he failed.

Quite miserably at that too.

He put all of his power into a finishing move and he couldn't even put a notable or lasting dent in Zamasu.

He failed there, so I don't know why anyone thinks Vegetto was going to finish Zamasu off with a punch. In fact you know what Zamasu does right after getting punched? He knocks the hell out of the two guys who did it to him with a ear to ear grin and breaks their faces.

The only techniques Vegetto had now were the Genki-Dama and the Joestar Secret Technique.
Edited by EMIYA, Jan 11 2017, 02:19 PM.
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Don't forget that Vegetto immediately defused afterwords, not even able top get more than a single punch off after that, a punch that accomplished nothing as well.
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This is not the look of someone on the brink of death or even hurt by that punch. So there are two possibilities, either Vegetto failed with that punch, or this is photoshop.
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Jan 11 2017, 03:37 AM
The Kaioshin of Universe 7 said that the reason Goku and Vegeta couldn't maintain SSjB was because of the Final Kamehameha. The Kaioshin from Universe 7 can sense God Ki. Therefore, I think he would know that the Final Kamehameha was what drained the fusion. Vegetto isn't Saitama - the one punch at the end wasn't what defused him. Even so, you just admitted that the regen factor outdid Vegetto's most powerful attack. So I ask... how does Vegetto have any hope of winning this? Pre-Light of Justice, he easily could have. That's why they fused to begin with. After that, he only had speed on Zamasu after Merged Zamasu bulked up. Zamasu was still immune to his greatest attack.
If he's gotten too strong Vegito would've said something. Vegito was superior the whole fight till the end, that's when Vegito tried to finish things but Zamasi's regen was still strong even though earlier he told Zamasu he isn't immortal anymore. But still, his final attack was gonna finish it.
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Jan 11 2017, 03:37 AM
The Kaioshin of Universe 7 said that the reason Goku and Vegeta couldn't maintain SSjB was because of the Final Kamehameha. The Kaioshin from Universe 7 can sense God Ki. Therefore, I think he would know that the Final Kamehameha was what drained the fusion. Vegetto isn't Saitama - the one punch at the end wasn't what defused him. Even so, you just admitted that the regen factor outdid Vegetto's most powerful attack. So I ask... how does Vegetto have any hope of winning this? Pre-Light of Justice, he easily could have. That's why they fused to begin with. After that, he only had speed on Zamasu after Merged Zamasu bulked up. Zamasu was still immune to his greatest attack.
If he's gotten too strong Vegito would've said something. Vegito was superior the whole fight till the end, that's when Vegito tried to finish things but Zamasi's regen was still strong even though earlier he told Zamasu he isn't immortal anymore. But still, his final attack was gonna finish it.
If Vegetto was stronger (which he wasn't), it'd have to be by such a small amount that it isn't even relevant. He wasn't taking any hits, he was avoiding them as if they'd severely damage him. He certainly didn't have the demeanour of someone who was controlling the fight.

His final attack didn't finish it, Zamasu tanked it or regenerated from it with no issue.
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The Kaioshin of Universe 7 said that the reason Goku and Vegeta couldn't maintain SSjB was because of the Final Kamehameha. The Kaioshin from Universe 7 can sense God Ki. Therefore, I think he would know that the Final Kamehameha was what drained the fusion. Vegetto isn't Saitama - the one punch at the end wasn't what defused him. Even so, you just admitted that the regen factor outdid Vegetto's most powerful attack. So I ask... how does Vegetto have any hope of winning this? Pre-Light of Justice, he easily could have. That's why they fused to begin with. After that, he only had speed on Zamasu after Merged Zamasu bulked up. Zamasu was still immune to his greatest attack.
If he's gotten too strong Vegito would've said something. Vegito was superior the whole fight till the end, that's when Vegito tried to finish things but Zamasi's regen was still strong even though earlier he told Zamasu he isn't immortal anymore. But still, his final attack was gonna finish it.
If he was strong enough to finish Zamasu but defused too early someone would have said something. Like how we needed someone to say Nappa, was hurt, because he doing perfectly fine after Chiaotzu's explosion isn't enough. [Restate positron without evidence]. [Restate conclusion without evidence].

Evidence. You lack it. Give us evidence.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Even if Vegetto was "stronger" he wasn't "strong enough." He wasn't strong enough to get the job done. In the end, his most powerful attack was inefficient to even doing any real damage to Zamasu. At best, he can keep Zamasu at bay with speed and technique, pressuring him, etc. But if his strongest attack isn't enough to get the job done, much less doing lasting damage, then eventually Vegetto is s going to tire out, run out of stamina,energy, etc. and Zamasu's going to overpower him.

It's the same thing with Piccolo vs No. 17. Eventually Piccolo's going to tire out and lose stamina while No. 17 is going to remain strong and constantly kicking. Now just imagine if No. 17 took Piccolo's most powerful energy blast and came out unscathed as well?
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Jan 11 2017, 04:59 PM
Even if Vegetto was "stronger" he wasn't "strong enough." He wasn't strong enough to get the job done. In the end, his most powerful attack was inefficient to even doing any real damage to Zamasu. At best, he can keep Zamasu at bay with speed and technique, pressuring him, etc. But if his strongest attack isn't enough to get the job done, much less doing lasting damage, then eventually Vegetto is s going to tire out, run out of stamina,energy, etc. and Zamasu's going to overpower him.

It's the same thing with Piccolo vs No. 17. Eventually Piccolo's going to tire out and lose stamina while No. 17 is going to remain strong and constantly kicking. Now just imagine if No. 17 took Piccolo's most powerful energy blast and came out unscathed as well?
17 kind of did that with Hellzone Grenade
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Seems kind of obvious to me. If Vegetto says he's gonna end it, then fires off a massively powerful blast and it doesn't, then says he's gonna end it again, and it doesn't again, then how exactly is he supposed to put Zamasu down outside of something like Kaioken?
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Jan 11 2017, 06:04 PM
Seems kind of obvious to me. If Vegetto says he's gonna end it, then fires off a massively powerful blast and it doesn't, then says he's gonna end it again, and it doesn't again, then how exactly is he supposed to put Zamasu down outside of something like Kaioken?
I can only imagine he was joking the first two times.

Somehow.

It's not likely even if it could make him more powerful, it's more likely it would have destroyed Vegetto considering it was a 90% chance of death with Goku.
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Jan 11 2017, 05:42 PM
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Jan 11 2017, 04:59 PM
Even if Vegetto was "stronger" he wasn't "strong enough." He wasn't strong enough to get the job done. In the end, his most powerful attack was inefficient to even doing any real damage to Zamasu. At best, he can keep Zamasu at bay with speed and technique, pressuring him, etc. But if his strongest attack isn't enough to get the job done, much less doing lasting damage, then eventually Vegetto is s going to tire out, run out of stamina,energy, etc. and Zamasu's going to overpower him.

It's the same thing with Piccolo vs No. 17. Eventually Piccolo's going to tire out and lose stamina while No. 17 is going to remain strong and constantly kicking. Now just imagine if No. 17 took Piccolo's most powerful energy blast and came out unscathed as well?
17 kind of did that with Hellzone Grenade
Now imagine that without a shield. And No. 17 flies out, arm spread, declaring himself "The Great Kahuna."
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His most powerful attack wasn't executed all the way. The Final Kamehameha isn't his most powerful attack if he was about to kill or at least attempt to kill him again. You say bring evidence? No one here can prove the Final Kamehameha is his ultimate barring videogames.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Why wouldn't it be? Goku's strongest attack baring the Genki Dama is the Kamehameha. You really can't get better than firing off your strongest energy wave.

Vegeta's strongest attack is the Final Flash, he doesn't even having anything like Goku's Genki-Dama.

So you put Goku's Kamehameha and Vegetas Final Flash together, have them say "This will finish it" and use up all their Ki as stated afterwards...and fail. Well it kind of sounds like Vegetto's run out of options.
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Why wouldn't the Final Kamehameha be Vegetto's ultimate attack? What else is he going to pull out of his a***? The Big Bang Taiyoken?
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He was probably saving the Galick Genki Dama to finish Zamasu.

But seriously, Vegetto loses.... just like he did in the anime.
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If Merged Zamasu wasn't semi immortal he would have been killed by Vegito's Ki Blade. The battle wasnt fair and Vegito even had a time limit. Its like playing a dbz video game were the Enemy has very high stamina and health and you have a time limit of 60 sec
Edited by Vegerot1990, Jan 11 2017, 07:20 PM.
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