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SSJ4 vs SSJB
SSJ4 20 (90.9%)
SSJB 2 (9.1%)
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SSJ4 vs SSJB
Topic Started: Dec 27 2016, 05:55 PM (1,179 Views)
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So the two ultimate forms one from GT the other from Super, which one is your favorite form and why?

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An original and creative form in both look and concept VS a fanmade-looking recolor of the classic Super Saiyan form

I don't see why anyone would pick SsjB other than it having a fancy aura.
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saiyan tail comeback > pretty dyed hair
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Gotta go with ssj4

Nothing against ssjb. I think it's cool too. I don't care what anyone says about it being a recolor I think it looks great and the aura is awesome too. It's a god version of ssj. I like that concept. It's specifically ssj1 which is nice

Ssj4 being a controlled state of the true super saiyan form was really different to see and it was just so badass to see. Some people make fun of it saying he looks like a ridiculous monkey but idk I think it looks awesome. Especially ssj4 gogeta that's probably my favorite design in the whole franchise
Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Dec 27 2016, 06:20 PM.
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Super Saiyan 4, for sure. It's more creative, and it's design is more unique and interesting. The god form is just a retread of the whole unimposing trope Toriyama started back in the Saiyan arc with Vegeta, and the whole concept of God Ki is kinda dumb TBH. The whole ritual thing is dumb too. Why does 5 Saiyans combining their "inner light", whatever that means, into another Saiyan create a god? As for Super Saiyan Blue, while I find it's simplicity to be brilliant in it's case because it's literally a form we're all familiar with using God Ki, again the concept of God Ki is just dumb. Why distinguish between a mortal's Ki and a god's Ki, when all throughout the series, gods weren't anything special up until this point? Hell, what exactly distinguishes God Ki from regular Ki other than the fact a god's Ki cannot be sensed, and not even that is consistent. You know, if Super or the movies did a better job explaining this, I might think the concept was at least alright, but no effort is put into explaining this s***.
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Super Saiyan Blue looks decent enough, but Super Saiyan 4 looks better and makes more sense to me. Plus, actual effort was put into creating it.
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Dec 27 2016, 07:06 PM
Super Saiyan 4, for sure. It's more creative, and it's design is more unique and interesting. The god form is just a retread of the whole unimposing trope Toriyama started back in the Saiyan arc with Vegeta, and the whole concept of God Ki is kinda dumb TBH. The whole ritual thing is dumb too. Why does 5 Saiyans combining their "inner light", whatever that means, into another Saiyan create a god? As for Super Saiyan Blue, while I find it's simplicity to be brilliant in it's case because it's literally a form we're all familiar with using God Ki, again the concept of God Ki is just dumb. Why distinguish between a mortal's Ki and a god's Ki, when all throughout the series, gods weren't anything special up until this point? Hell, what exactly distinguishes God Ki from regular Ki other than the fact a god's Ki cannot be sensed, and not even that is consistent. You know, if Super or the movies did a better job explaining this, I might think the concept was at least alright, but no effort is put into explaining this s***.
It's not really the God ki itself it's how goku and vegeta attained the God ki and what it means for ssj. The fact that it's god ki which means it can't be sensed is kind of just a bonus. Having God ki in general doesn't necessitate having proper ki control but proper ki control grants God ki
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Well since everyone gave there votes I also voted for SSJ4. Far more creative, cooler, and better looking in general plus I love the concept behind it. SSJB is also nice for me but it's just so simple and no real depth on it was given.

SSJ4 also happens to be my favorite form so... :p .
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As I said, this is not even a competition.

We all know which of the two is the better form.

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The SSJ4 is probably the one of the few things Toei did better than canon: an actually original SSJ form. The SSJ forms look cool in general, but creative? Let's not exaggerate here. The concept behind the SSJ4 was actually interresting, and Toei managed to make it look cool on top of it. Plus, Goku's voice in english becomes even deeper than usual, giving him the vibes of a total badass (if he didn't already). It's probably the best SSJ form in the franchise (yes, I dared to say it). Too bad that it's non-canon...

On the other hand, we have the SSJB, which is exactly what it says in the name: a blue version of the Super Saiyan. Here, we're literally on the other side of originality and creativity. The only thing the form has for it is that it looks good, but the SSJ4 doesn't look bad either, far from it. It's the worst SSJ form in the franchise. Too bad that it's canon...
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SS4 all day! I love the design, particularly Vegeta and Gogeta.
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Super Saiyan 4 was about the only thing cool in GT, I still love playing as Super Saiyan 4 Goku, Vegeta, and Gogeta in DBZ games as well. I'd say it's better and cooler than Super Saiyan Blue, but I honestly like Super Saiyan Red the best.
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Lol, I thought this would be a bit closer seeing people liking the Blue form a lot in other places, but I guess SSJ4 really is far far better.

If I add SSJG would it change anything here?
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DEFINITELY Super Saiyan 4. It's by far the most unique and awesome thing that Toei's ever come up with in my book, and the idea behind it of bringing back Oozaru and combining it with Super Saiyan to make a new humanoid but bestial form is a stroke of brilliance.

I liked Super Saiyan God a lot for kind of the same reasons as SS4... it did things differently, keeping Goku's normal hair shape and actually slimming him down, while just changing his hair's color and putting emphasis on the brilliant fiery aura. It's like it was emphasizing how Goku's power in the form came from the incredibly, otherworldly new god-ki he was channeling, instead of his own body.

But sadly, Super Saiyan Blue ditched most of that uniqueness. Its fancy aura is the only thing that redeems it from just being a cheap recolor, and even then just barely.
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