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Ssj4 gogeta vs galactus
Topic Started: Dec 27 2016, 02:15 AM (1,670 Views)
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Can gogeta beat galactus
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That's kind of a hard thing to quantify though no? Regardless of whether or not he condensed x amount of stuff in there, it still has to spread. And that takes time to do, if Vegeta expects Gohan and Goten/Trunks to go off and train because he thinks they'll eventually become strong enough to take on Omega, then I think a few seconds, even minutes of charging is not enough for the Negative Energy to fully encompass an entire universe, it just doesn't add up whatsoever. That and there might be a bit of a translation error if I'm not mistaken?

https://plus.google.com/+AnimeVSComics/posts/WDdSJBSn3fj

^Is a translation of the parts of Gogeta, the SSJ4's, and Syn Shenron himself. And it refers to Galaxies, did the Japanese version of GT reference universes instead in an official subbing or is it a fansub?

Edit: Also ignore all the comments, there are dragonball fans turning rabid on one another over GT vs BoG.
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Who says Gogeta has that kind of power? As far as I remember, Omega was said to be able to destroy a galaxy, which is relatively puny to what Galactus took before getting the power cosmic and when he was more humanlike, and now, he's inherited godlike power, becoming MUCH more powerful as you would imagine.

I don't see how a puny blast is going to harm Galactus, even if it had the power to do so (which it doesn't), comparing the beam to an actual explosion would be like comparing a grenade to a bullet. Both might hurt but the grenade is going to hurt A LOT more.
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I'm not sure when it was said but I could of sworn I remember him saying his negative energy could destroy the universe. Somebody else explained this better one time. It might've been Lazerbem
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Dec 27 2016, 04:46 AM
Who says Gogeta has that kind of power? As far as I remember, Omega was said to be able to destroy a galaxy, which is relatively puny to what Galactus took before getting the power cosmic and when he was more humanlike, and now, he's inherited godlike power, becoming MUCH more powerful as you would imagine.

I don't see how a puny blast is going to harm Galactus, even if it had the power to do so (which it doesn't), comparing the beam to an actual explosion would be like comparing a grenade to a bullet. Both might hurt but the grenade is going to hurt A LOT more.
Grenade vs bullet is a different comparison. This is different

I'm talking about for example how superman has survived a supernova. He's not surviving all the force of the supernova. That's a huge omnidirectional blast. Wouldn't most of the force not even effect him because it's so huge compared to him? If you were to condense all the force of the explosion and throw it all at his face that would be way more effective. Unless he's at the center of explosion he's not withstanding it all

Agree with the example or not, you get what I'm saying?
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Dude, it's still way more than anything Gogeta has at his disposal.
A universe is MASSIVE.

Plus Gogeta's going to waste his time fooling around. Galactus is direct and serious, he's not going to stand around allowing Gogeta to hit him with everything he's got while he charges up his attack for 2 episodes. Galactus is either going to blast him with the tiniest fraction of his power which would equal something that is WAY beyond what any character in GT should be able to withstand. Heck, the planet exploding would probably still kill them, and Galactus can do that with his bare hands.

Galactus has enough powers and abilities at his disposal to make short work of Gogeta. This is not a fair fight in the slightest. End of discussion.
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Yes that's my point a universe is massive. Now take the force the explosion had to destroy the entire universe and condense it to a small point and shoot it at gogeta... He will kick it away. You have to understand how impressive that is. That is a WAY more impressive feat than what galactus did. A fraction of the power gogeta kicked away was enough to knock out galactus

Charge up a blast for two episodes? Stop joking around. It took shenron seconds to make that blast and gogeta is much stronger. Why would it take long at all for him? He could easily make a blast as strong as omega's

And ssj4 gogeta and vegito were overconfident because they knew they could've easily destroyed their opponents. And gogeta wasn't aware his timelimit was shortened

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Galactus has a lot of different hax stuff unlike gogeta. Can't argue against that


By the way this is all under the assumption I'm right about the negative karma ball having universe busting power. I'm not 100% sure tbh
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Isn't the universe in DB much smaller than the real world one though?

I'm sure the Marvel universe is based on the size of the real one.


So Gogeta being able to destroy Dragon Ball verse isn't really equivalent.
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Dec 27 2016, 02:08 PM
Isn't the universe in DB much smaller than the real world one though?

I'm sure the Marvel universe is based on the size of the real one.


So Gogeta being able to destroy Dragon Ball verse isn't really equivalent.
I remember Daizenshuu claiming that DBZ universe is the same as our own and "keeps expanding".

Anyway even taking that into account SSJ4 Gogeta can't win, even if he had the power Galactus has so much hax it's pointless.
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Dec 27 2016, 05:13 AM
Yes that's my point a universe is massive. Now take the force the explosion had to destroy the entire universe and condense it to a small point and shoot it at gogeta... He will kick it away. You have to understand how impressive that is. That is a WAY more impressive feat than what galactus did. A fraction of the power gogeta kicked away was enough to knock out galactus
If you don't know a character, don't just simply lie about him. The explosion didn't knock him out, it barely injured him, and he hadn't recieved the power cosmic yet. And we don't know where Galactus was when the Big Bang happened, so for all we know it could've been the center of it. Gogeta doesn't have it in a "small point", ki blasts are not small in the slightest, and Galactus isn't the size of a planet, he could see that coming very easily.

Even if Gogeta had kicked a universe-busting attack, the kind of power Galactus has in his technology or just his body is way beyond that of simply destroying a universe. Plus if you don't even know about the power that Negative Ball was packing, then why did you go in depth on an attack that probably can destroy a galaxy at most?
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Omega Shenron is universal through chain reaction of his negative energy, using the Negative Karma Ball condenses that in a single point and is then fired.

You think Omega's attack isn't potent enough? His attack was going to destroy the universe, The Kaioshin realm, the demon realm, and the after life, along with heaven. All these together are way more then what Galan withstood. Galactus I'm not sure.
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Yes that's my point a universe is massive. Now take the force the explosion had to destroy the entire universe and condense it to a small point and shoot it at gogeta... He will kick it away. You have to understand how impressive that is. That is a WAY more impressive feat than what galactus did. A fraction of the power gogeta kicked away was enough to knock out galactus
If you don't know a character, don't just simply lie about him. The explosion didn't knock him out, it barely injured him, and he hadn't recieved the power cosmic yet. And we don't know where Galactus was when the Big Bang happened, so for all we know it could've been the center of it. Gogeta doesn't have it in a "small point", ki blasts are not small in the slightest, and Galactus isn't the size of a planet, he could see that coming very easily.

Even if Gogeta had kicked a universe-busting attack, the kind of power Galactus has in his technology or just his body is way beyond that of simply destroying a universe. Plus if you don't even know about the power that Negative Ball was packing, then why did you go in depth on an attack that probably can destroy a galaxy at most?
My bad. I heard that he was knocked out. I did say I'm not an expert on galactus

Ki blasts are relatively puny in comparison to a blast that would engulf the entire universe is what I mean. The universe is gigantic so of all the places he could've been he most likely wasn't at the center of the explosion. Again idk though. Give me some evidence

I was wondering about galactus's durability. I told squall we would have to ask you since you seem to know more about him. That's why I went in depth on the attack

I'm also no GT expert lol. Solid snake seems to agree that it's universe+ level though
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Solid Snake seems to believe anything the characters say.

Even though it's pretty obvious that they're just boasting about power they don't have.
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We don't really have a reason to deny his statement though do we?
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Uh... yes we do.

Especially since everyone in Dragon Ball boasts about power they clearly don't have. Such as Kid Boo being able make the universe go "poof".
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Omega Shenrons situation is quite strange...

He claims his negative karma ball can wipe out the universe via chain reaction, however is that based on the power of the attack or the negative energy itself. I don't know how to explain this but for example if I threw some bottle with poisonous gas at a house with people and they all got killed it's gonna be because of the poison expanding in the house not the power of the bottle itself. The negative energy is the reason the universe will eventually end not the power of the attack.

I don't know if that even makes sense but whatever.
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