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Why are people so childish about Trump?
Topic Started: Dec 27 2016, 01:56 AM (1,700 Views)
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The parties aren't bound to the same rules as the federal vote, that's why it was legal for DWS to swing the playing field against Bernie. It wouldn't necessarily mean that the RNC or DNC would change too.

I feel like the electoral college does serve its purpose though. No one would care about the smaller states without the electoral college. Republicans would mainly campaign in California and Democrats would go to the south in Louisiana and Georgia. The states that decided this election (Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania) would have no say about how they've lost their jobs while the rest of the country is improving. Granted that I don't think Trump will be solving their problems, at the very least they did have a voice thanks to the electoral college.

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attempting to get a negative reaction from people

I don't see what's wrong with that though. He won the election fair and square so all people can do now is express dissent in hopes of curbing his stances.

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Dec 28 2016, 09:00 PM

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attempting to get a negative reaction from people

I don't see what's wrong with that though. He won the election fair and square so all people can do now is express dissent in hopes of curbing his stances.
There's nothing wrong with holding this opinion. However, it does make me show empathy with the question given in the this topic title. "Why are people so childish about Trump?" If you're going to admit it is on purpose then you also have to admit it is childish.
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What exactly is childish, though? Refusing to perform for a person who's been spitting toxic hate and rhetoric for the past year and a half isn't childish, it's just showing that you don't support their actions and their words. What would be the mature thing to do? Perform, and in doing so tell everyone that you're tacitly consenting Trump and his message?

Furthermore, it's hard to not be negative when there's literally nothing positive about this President-Elect and his Cabinet. You don't have to try and search for negative reactions at all when simply reporting what's happening gets them easily enough.
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Dec 29 2016, 12:44 PM
What exactly is childish, though? Refusing to perform for a person who's been spitting toxic hate and rhetoric for the past year and a half isn't childish, it's just showing that you don't support their actions and their words. What would be the mature thing to do? Perform, and in doing so tell everyone that you're tacitly consenting Trump and his message?
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That's just it though. I would say people with decent sense aren't shocked, but that isn't stopping the mainstream media accompanied by vulnerable liberals from being shocked by it and attempting to get a negative reaction from people all over the world and I find it astounding that it is working.


I am referring in relation to the context of my original statement which wasn't fully quoted. Reporting news to gain a shock factor is silly and misleading. But, hey, if it is news you can count on then why bother worrying about accuracy or professionalism? Am I right?

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Furthermore, it's hard to not be negative when there's literally nothing positive about this President-Elect and his Cabinet. You don't have to try and search for negative reactions at all when simply reporting what's happening gets them easily enough.


Generalization based on your personal opinion doesn't justify your stance.





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Can you tell me how they would report news without the intention of gaining a shock factor? From what I've seen, they're just reporting what's happening, and if there are examples of specific news sites doing that, then that's an issue with those sites in particular, not the 'mainstream' media.

Can you point to some examples of positive things coming out of Trump and his Cabinet?
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Can you tell me how they would report news without the intention of gaining a shock factor?


Shock value taints news. Instead of providing information to an audience it attempts to persuade an audience to show empathy towards a certain view point. For obvious reasons the worth of such 'news' such be considered that of a lesser caliber.

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Here is an example from a good while back. It is funny, and likely has real events within the story, but the purpose of the news and how it is presented is obviously of a shock value nature.

Shock value is a way news sites energize their bases that share the same political, social, etc stances. It's also a way some debaters attempt to justify opinions or 'win' arguments. In the end though, it is a play on emotion that is for the vulnerable.

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From what I've seen, they're just reporting what's happening, and if there are examples of specific news sites doing that, then that's an issue with those sites in particular, not the 'mainstream' media.


In America it is the mainstream media. I don't have to quote stories although I can if you'd like. Simply turn on CNN USA or look through articles of almost any major news outlet in America that prints.


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Can you point to some examples of positive things coming out of Trump and his Cabinet?


If I answer this question we are going to end up on a tangent, although if someone makes a topic relating to positives from Trump being president I will respond there.

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