Is Budokai 3 overrated?

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Do you think so?
No, it's the GOAT. It earned it's place	3 (37.5%)
No, but it's not my favorite	2 (25%)
Yes, love it but it'stime to move on	1 (12.5%)
Yes, never understood it's popularity	2 (25%)
I like pie	0 (0%)
Total Votes: 8

Is Budokai 3 overrated?
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DBZAOTA482	Dec 22 2016, 01:36 AM Post #1
Posts: 1,798 Group: Member Member #5,093 Joined: August 2, 2010 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z, One Piece, Akira, School Rumble, Detective Conan. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome, Internet Explorer.	Well, it's no secret at this point Budokai 3 is my favorite DBZ game always has been ever since I first got on Christmas day of 2004 and many likely share my sentiments as well. I still play it often even to this day despite unlocking everything in the game but some thoughts had me curious to if it's acclaim and success is truly deserved. Back in 2004, the first two Budokai games weren't amazing but as games based on the Dragon Ball series they worked surprisingly well especially after s*** like Ultimate Battle 22 and Final Bout. Budokai 3 then was announced which promised to finally address the suggestions and complaints people had of the first two games. The combat was greatly fleshed-out with a totally revamped ki system, new defensive maneuvers (like dodging and Teleport Counter), more individualized moveset for all characters, and much greater speed overall. The single-player campaign Dragon Universe contains the RPG aspects and near-infinite replay value from Dragon World (only more fleshed-out) but without the tedious board game setting to bog the experience down. The cel-shaded graphics were further refined. And more... Budokai 3 was very well-received... it instantly became a fan favorite and was actually getting positive reviews from critics... in fact, it still remains the most acclaimed DBZ game to date. Even people who weren't into Dragon Ball were all over the game. However, there's still it's detractors... notably those BT3 trolls who call it as "Tekken with DBZ skin". There are also those believe all it's acclaim isn't deserved with Shin Budokai, Burst Limit, and Infinite World which improved the formula in several ways.... notably with customization and core gameplay. Now do you think the praise and success of the game is all what it's cracked to be or not?



lazerbem	Dec 22 2016, 02:02 AM Post #2
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	It's painfully overrated, imo. I tried to play it, and it was just a chore to unlock every single random little attack just by grinding the World Tournament or by using that one exploit in story mode. The idea of having to buy attacks is absurd. Sure, it's fine if it's just one special attack, but buying without exaggeration every single attack that you don't unlock in story mode is just insane. Not to mention the whole idea of having a limited amount of moves for a single character to use is irritating. Dragon Rush is a really annoying mechanic and having to use a luckbased system in order to launch off certain attacks is also incredibly silly. The balancing is also just bad in this game. Do you want to have Cell Junior beat up on Piccolo? Well tough luck, you're going to be facing a horrible up-hill battle since the stats are so wildly different and the Cell Junior doesn't have as many attacks. Now, I can hear you saying "just level up the Cell Junior" which leads me to another point, namely that the leveling up is just unnecessary. There's no point to having it. Also, the animations being canned for a lot of things really hurts the presentation of the game(if I have to see that ax-kick combo one more time, it'll be the end). In the end, it just doesn't feel like a DBZ game. You feel so constrained, with barely any ability to fly beyond very slowly moving upward.
	Crazy cat cults in the woods


Darker	Dec 22 2016, 02:17 AM Post #3
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,361 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	lazerbem Dec 22 2016, 02:02 AM You feel so constrained, with barely any ability to fly beyond very slowly moving upward. And it's a shame most Dragon Ball games are like that.
	Piccolo: Just how many people have you sacrificed?! Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.


EMIYA	Dec 22 2016, 03:16 AM Post #4
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Hardly at all. While you can make arguments that later installments improved on aspects, that doesn't take away from what Budokai 3 had to offer. It's still a great game, fun and invigorating. Does it have its flaws? Sure, like any game would but that doesn't change what it brought and the good things it did or started. Look at something like the original Smash Brothers or Sonic the Hedgehog compared to Brawl/Wii U or Sonic 3 and Knuckles. No doubt, they are vastly inferior to to their later installments. Does that make them suddenly bad? No, there's a huge difference between something that's bad and something that's dated. Look what Budokai 3 brought when it first came. Improved roster, better combinations and moves, it was probably the first time we'd ever gotten all forms of Freeza. There was a massive update in the fighting engine. This was the first time we got Super Perfect Cell, it was probably the first DBZ game to be given some competitive light. It was obvious just how much effort was put into the game and it shows. And when people say that Infinite World or Burst Limit is better, it's like...sure...how much? Because Budokai 3 pretty much overhauled what the first two Budokai Games brought. Which I think says a lot more than these games slightly improving on another. It's the same thing I feel about Tenkachi 2 and Tenkachi 3. I think Tenkachi 2, greatly improved on the first game, making it a much better sequel while Tenkachi 3 while a better game, only improved a bit more from Tenkachi 2. I've heard the same things about Xenoverse 2. In that while it may be a better game overall, it's just a few improvements here and there. So overrated? Not at all, it deserves every bit of praise it gets. It is a good game and the fact that it's formula was still being used and improved upon in other games like Burst Limit, Infinite World and Shin budokai is a testament to that.



lazerbem	Dec 22 2016, 03:19 AM Post #5
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Yeah, the game was definitely influential. If you're asking in context, then yeah, it's not overrated much. I was speaking contemporarily.
	Crazy cat cults in the woods


DBZAOTA482	Dec 22 2016, 04:04 AM Post #6
Posts: 1,798 Group: Member Member #5,093 Joined: August 2, 2010 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z, One Piece, Akira, School Rumble, Detective Conan. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome, Internet Explorer.	lazerbem Dec 22 2016, 02:02 AM It's painfully overrated, imo. I tried to play it, and it was just a chore to unlock every single random little attack just by grinding the World Tournament or by using that one exploit in story mode. The idea of having to buy attacks is absurd. Sure, it's fine if it's just one special attack, but buying without exaggeration every single attack that you don't unlock in story mode is just insane. Not to mention the whole idea of having a limited amount of moves for a single character to use is irritating. Dragon Rush is a really annoying mechanic and having to use a luckbased system in order to launch off certain attacks is also incredibly silly. The balancing is also just bad in this game. Do you want to have Cell Junior beat up on Piccolo? Well tough luck, you're going to be facing a horrible up-hill battle since the stats are so wildly different and the Cell Junior doesn't have as many attacks. Now, I can hear you saying "just level up the Cell Junior" which leads me to another point, namely that the leveling up is just unnecessary. There's no point to having it. Also, the animations being canned for a lot of things really hurts the presentation of the game(if I have to see that ax-kick combo one more time, it'll be the end). In the end, it just doesn't feel like a DBZ game. You feel so constrained, with barely any ability to fly beyond very slowly moving upward. The Cell Jr's states aren't really different from Piccolo's aside from the Cell Jr having only one bar of health each. In fact, the game doesn't give character different states generally speaking aside from different ki baseline. Edited by DBZAOTA482, Dec 22 2016, 04:05 AM.



+ Ssj3vegito96	Dec 22 2016, 07:16 AM Post #7
Posts: 10,333 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Budokai 3 is the best dbz game imo. Xenoverse 2 comes close but its also very different game. For what budokai 3 was at the time it was and is still great. All it needed was an online mode and it would've been perfect My friends and family would get together and have king of the hill tournaments and try to unlock stuff in the campaign and we had so much fun. So many gatherings. And the new HD version brought that back. We had such an amazing time I have friends who aren't even that big on video games but would go crazy over this game and we would play literally dozens of matches That game deserves every ounce of praise it gets imo Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Dec 22 2016, 07:16 AM.
	IT'S CHEESE Spoiler: click to toggle Top 7 favorite dbz heroes: 1. Sometimes it goku sometimes it's vegeta 2. ^ 3. Teen gohan 4. Future trunks 5. Piccolo 6. Adult gohan 7. Bardock


~~Professor Gohan~~	Dec 22 2016, 07:54 AM Post #8
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Not GOAT, but it has earned its hype.



lazerbem	Dec 22 2016, 11:42 AM Post #9
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	DBZAOTA482 Dec 22 2016, 04:04 AM lazerbem Dec 22 2016, 02:02 AM It's painfully overrated, imo. I tried to play it, and it was just a chore to unlock every single random little attack just by grinding the World Tournament or by using that one exploit in story mode. The idea of having to buy attacks is absurd. Sure, it's fine if it's just one special attack, but buying without exaggeration every single attack that you don't unlock in story mode is just insane. Not to mention the whole idea of having a limited amount of moves for a single character to use is irritating. Dragon Rush is a really annoying mechanic and having to use a luckbased system in order to launch off certain attacks is also incredibly silly. The balancing is also just bad in this game. Do you want to have Cell Junior beat up on Piccolo? Well tough luck, you're going to be facing a horrible up-hill battle since the stats are so wildly different and the Cell Junior doesn't have as many attacks. Now, I can hear you saying "just level up the Cell Junior" which leads me to another point, namely that the leveling up is just unnecessary. There's no point to having it. Also, the animations being canned for a lot of things really hurts the presentation of the game(if I have to see that ax-kick combo one more time, it'll be the end). In the end, it just doesn't feel like a DBZ game. You feel so constrained, with barely any ability to fly beyond very slowly moving upward. The Cell Jr's states aren't really different from Piccolo's aside from the Cell Jr having only one bar of health each. In fact, the game doesn't give character different states generally speaking aside from different ki baseline. The one bar of health is a really annoying thing when it resets your ki every time you die.
	Crazy cat cults in the woods


+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Dec 22 2016, 07:44 PM Post #10
魔王子 Posts: 9,798 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Yeah, I'd argue it's overrated by today's standards, but obviously it was pretty good back in the day, and it's still playable today.
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Dec 22 2016, 11:25 PM Post #11
Posts: 10,333 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	how would you guys say xenoverse 2 stacks up against it? or are they too different to compare?
	IT'S CHEESE Spoiler: click to toggle Top 7 favorite dbz heroes: 1. Sometimes it goku sometimes it's vegeta 2. ^ 3. Teen gohan 4. Future trunks 5. Piccolo 6. Adult gohan 7. Bardock


+ Majin Vegeta	Dec 25 2016, 07:00 PM Post #12
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Nah, Budokai 3 is my favorite DBZ game ever, better than Xenoverse or anything at all. The fighting, storie (the parallel ones too) everything is awesome for me, the only think that is missing IMO is a bigger roster.
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


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