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Post your Dance fusion boost
Topic Started: Dec 8 2016, 03:19 AM (440 Views)
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I've been using x20, but lately I've felt like that's a bit low. What do you all use?
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"(A+B) x Plot."

Basically, I think there's a good reason why the guidebooks and stuff haven't established a "Fusion Formula" of any kind... because there isn't one. There must be a lot of different factors concerning the individuals that can affect the power of the Fusion.
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Actually the Super Exciting Guide has inferred that Vegetto's battle power is equivalent to Goku's battle power multiplied by Vegeta's.
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I don't think there is any set boost, seeing how post-RoSaT Gotenks seems to get a vastly higher boost than pre-RoSaT Gotenks, despite the fact that the individual kids aren't noted to be any stronger.
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Dec 8 2016, 03:47 AM
Actually the Super Exciting Guide has inferred that Vegetto's battle power is equivalent to Goku's battle power multiplied by Vegeta's.
I don't think that's meant to be taken literally. Heck, when you think about it, it really can't be taken literally. Scouter "battle power" readings are just one particular unit of power measurement, as opposed to something else like Kiri. "A x B" in Kiri would be a LOT less than "A x B" in scouter units. Would Vegetto be hundreds of times weaker just because his power was read by a Kiri meter instead of a Scouter?

Anyway, all in all, I doubt that the "GOKU X VEGETA" was meant to be anything more than a hyperbolic illustration of the book saying that Potara Fusion was "more like" multiplication compared to the Dance being "more like" addition, if I'm remembering the entries right.
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ahill1
Dec 8 2016, 03:47 AM
Actually the Super Exciting Guide has inferred that Vegetto's battle power is equivalent to Goku's battle power multiplied by Vegeta's.
I doubt that's how it works. Goku and Vegeta's SSJ powers are in the billions by the Boo saga. Vegetto is strong but he's not like 10 billion x 10 billion strong
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Well, if you honestly believe Gotenks Pre-RoSat is above his Pre Ssj1 self, then Base Gogeta is also stronger than Ssj3 Goku. Whatever the boost is, its really high.
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depends on Plot, but above 400x as Base Gogeta is above SSJ3 Goku. it could be near a million at the most to me.
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Dec 8 2016, 04:31 AM
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Dec 8 2016, 03:47 AM
Actually the Super Exciting Guide has inferred that Vegetto's battle power is equivalent to Goku's battle power multiplied by Vegeta's.
I doubt that's how it works. Goku and Vegeta's SSJ powers are in the billions by the Boo saga. Vegetto is strong but he's not like 10 billion x 10 billion strong
Aye, I didn't say that's how it works. Just saying that something "resembling" a boost was mentioned in the SEG, whether it's to be taken literally or not.

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Anyway, all in all, I doubt that the "GOKU X VEGETA" was meant to be anything more than a hyperbolic illustration of the book saying that Potara Fusion was "more like" multiplication compared to the Dance being "more like" addition, if I'm remembering the entries right.

The SEG describes the Potara as being closer to a multiplication than simple addition, but it also infers Vegetto = GokuxVegeta (not that I agree with it).

I also think it's most likely referring to the battle power measured by the scouters, as we don't even know if the kiri system works in a linear way and was introduced in just a chapter.

But it's inferred Vegetto = GokuxVegeta, whether it works or no (it probably doesn't, since Goku and Vegeta are way over 3 millions and a multiplication would take them to... well, to a pretty, pretty high amount, which I doubt anyone would have in their battle powers' list).
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Fusion Dance = ( 2 * Fusion Boost * Lower Participant PL) / (3 * (2 ^ Distractions))

Potara = (3 * Fusion Boost * (Higher Participant PL + Lower Participant PL)) / ((Higher Participant PL / Lower Participant PL) + 2)

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Metamoran Fusion Multiplier
A = B

A + B = C (x 10)


There....
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There is no set multiplier or formula. There are probably more factors than just immediate power that affects the strength of a fusion.

It's probably a combination of the fusees current powerlevel, mastery of ki, skill, latent power, etc.

Goku & Vegeta would be able to draw out more power than their sons. Black, Zamasu, Goku and Vegeta would all be able to draw out power to roughly the same extent from merging.
Gogeta is stated to be "many tens of times stronger" than Goku and Vegeta separately.

For people like Kibito Kai, the multiplier would be lower, much lower. Shin is much stronger than Piccolo, who is significantly stronger than his Cell arc self.
Kibito is strong enough to give Base Gohan a good fight.

Simply adding their powers, then multiplying them by the same formula you would for Goku/Vegeta would make Kibito Kai far stronger than Base Vegito/Gogeta, since Beerus couldn't see how Base Goku or Vegeta could possibly beat Frieza. That obviously doesn't work.

Would use A+B(280) for Goku, Vegeta, Zamasu and Black. Would use something like A+B(55) for Goten and Trunks. Something like A+B(10) for Kibito Kai.
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