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The Potara Fusion of Yang and Pyrrha vs Dragon Ball/Z
Topic Started: Dec 2 2016, 09:27 PM (1,011 Views)
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How far would the Potara Fusion of Yang Xiao Long and Pyrrha Nikos make it in Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z?

Note: Let’s ignore the BS about the Potara Fusion having a Time Limit from Dragon Ball Super.

Bonus Scenario: How would the Potara Fusion of Yang and Pyrrha do against Cinder Fall?

The Yang post from the RWBY Respect Thread: http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=9246943&t=8553463
Pyrrha Nikos Respect Thread: http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8565400/1/
Cinder Fall Respect Thread: http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8563437/1/
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...You know thinking about this, what exactly does a potara fusion do in terms of feats? I mean yeah it let Goku and Vegeta crush Buu but that was via power level scaling, which the cast of RWBY doesn't have. Presumably in the bonus round they'd crush Cinder since I doubt the distance between Cinder and either of them is even close to the distance between Super Buu and Goku.

Hell Vegetto overall has worse feats than ssjg Goku even and I'm pretty sure Vegetto is meant to be waaaay more powerful than that, so I have no idea how to apply a DBZ fusion to two RWBY characters and then pit them against DBZ characters.
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How do you rationalize Vegito Blue as Super Saiyan God Goku's superior then? I obviously have Vegito Blue stronger then that level. Isn't best to assume Vegito Blue could do this too?
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Dec 3 2016, 05:54 AM
How do you rationalize Vegito Blue as Super Saiyan God Goku's superior then? I obviously have Vegito Blue stronger then that level. Isn't best to assume Vegito Blue could do this too?
Dragon Ball uses power level (stated or implied) which I can use to scale feats, and honestly sometimes I'm not sure considering just the incredibly the vast difference in feats. Potara increases power level, not feats (much like many transformations), and RWBY characters don't have power levels so I obviously can't multiply that to tell how strong they are.
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No need to tell me that lol. To be totally honest, I was baffled by that underwhelming collision between too beings that were damn near equals with one of the two having "energy expanding to no end" 😕

Like you said, that's kinda backwards how lack of similar feats are overlooked compared to weaker characters performing em earlier. But switching Beerus with Vegito Blue, I believe he'd be able to tank those galactic class punches (Beerus can too but I'm just saying) and be able to dish out some equal or far greater then. The issue with me is that, they explained this in the series as "just a fight" but is this supposed to mean it "wasn't just a fight" with the clashes? Like in the next episode of the shockwaves, they replicate the conditions for the shockwaves and they're smaller and more contained within their vicinity. They implied Goku learned to cancel em out, but everyone else didn't learn it so if Piccolo is stronger then base Saiyans post God, then how can we assume Piccolo or even, weaken or not, Frost can't mimic this? The latter even pretty ki amped himself with the aura and Goku caught his blow and the planet was fine.

I think I rode off topic a bit but my theory is that Vegito Blue just used the punch cancel thingy but I don't know.
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I mean Xiao Nikos would probably be an unquantified amount faster, an unquantified amount stronger, and an unquantified amount more punchy? Than either one or the other. Would their semblances just kind of be added together and be able to use either one? That's very useful potentially.
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Dec 5 2016, 04:39 PM
No need to tell me that lol. To be totally honest, I was baffled by that underwhelming collision between too beings that were damn near equals with one of the two having "energy expanding to no end" 😕

Like you said, that's kinda backwards how lack of similar feats are overlooked compared to weaker characters performing em earlier. But switching Beerus with Vegito Blue, I believe he'd be able to tank those galactic class punches (Beerus can too but I'm just saying) and be able to dish out some equal or far greater then. The issue with me is that, they explained this in the series as "just a fight" but is this supposed to mean it "wasn't just a fight" with the clashes? Like in the next episode of the shockwaves, they replicate the conditions for the shockwaves and they're smaller and more contained within their vicinity. They implied Goku learned to cancel em out, but everyone else didn't learn it so if Piccolo is stronger then base Saiyans post God, then how can we assume Piccolo or even, weaken or not, Frost can't mimic this? The latter even pretty ki amped himself with the aura and Goku caught his blow and the planet was fine.

I think I rode off topic a bit but my theory is that Vegito Blue just used the punch cancel thingy but I don't know.
I mean personally I actually think the punch there was done far better in terms of feeling powerful, even if out... Well wasn't, but we do have the shots of them screening, all the light going around and rocks coming out of the ground instead of some kind of photoshop effect that I saw got mistaken for a YouTube edit meant to avoid the copy right But it is disappointing it's not doing anything in terms of a feat, and heck considering the rocks flew up I don't it was cancelled out either. I just consider the first two arcs non canon honestly, or replace them with the manga, either makes that clash at least a little more impressive. And yeah, along with everything else and me nearly falling asleep watching it, I don't rate episode 12 very highly, it just causes so many problems after the arc ends.

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I imagine Ms. Nikos would be the dominant personality, at least in terms of tactics and such as well as a bit more integration of hand to hand, and I imagine the polarity semblance could probably be set to overdrive if Yang's semblance is activated. Though don't quote me on that or anything.
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Yeah the manga version is actually still impressive too. Not only the universe was shakened pretty much, it was still implied the universe's still is in jeopardy the longer they fight. I also think Beerus is a much better fighter too to be honest.
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Any main character RWBY Potara should be able to handle Cinder. RWBY characters are not that far ahead of others to where fusion won't be a win for who ever is fusing.

As for feats I'm not 100% sure where Yang and Pyrrha are but I doubt they handle saiyan arc Vegeta.
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Any main character RWBY Potara should be able to handle Cinder. RWBY characters are not that far ahead of others to where fusion won't be a win for who ever is fusing.


How can you be sure on that though? Fusion only works on a powerscaling system.
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Any main character RWBY Potara should be able to handle Cinder. RWBY characters are not that far ahead of others to where fusion won't be a win for who ever is fusing.


How can you be sure on that though? Fusion only works on a powerscaling system.
Fusion is around a 100x increase, rwby gaps dont yey stretch that far as of right now.
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Any main character RWBY Potara should be able to handle Cinder. RWBY characters are not that far ahead of others to where fusion won't be a win for who ever is fusing.


How can you be sure on that though? Fusion only works on a powerscaling system.
Fusion is around a 100x increase, rwby gaps that stretch that far as of right now.
100x increase in what? BP's? How do you translate that to a series that doesn't have those? It's apparent that 100x BP does not mean you can do 100x what you were capable of previously. Otherwise Vegetto would be stronger than Beerus.
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Any main character RWBY Potara should be able to handle Cinder. RWBY characters are not that far ahead of others to where fusion won't be a win for who ever is fusing.


How can you be sure on that though? Fusion only works on a powerscaling system.
Fusion is around a 100x increase, rwby gaps that stretch that far as of right now.
100x increase in what? BP's? How do you translate that to a series that doesn't have those? It's apparent that 100x BP does not mean you can do 100x what you were capable of previously. Otherwise Vegetto would be stronger than Beerus.
Eh? If anything, a 100x increase in BP means you're capable of doing MORE than 100 times what you could do previously (see Goku and Piccolo having a PL of around 400 against Raditz while a normal human has 5).

And no, Vegetto would NOT be able to beat Beerus if he's a 100 times stronger than Goku and Vegeta. Beerus can destroy the whole universe as a side affect while fighting, while Boo Arc Goku and Vegeta could at most destroy a solar system with their strongest attack (well, SSJ3 Goku might be able to do it with less). Making them a hundred (or, heck, even a million) times stronger wouldn't make them anywhere strong enough to even dream of taking on Beerus.
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Dec 24 2016, 02:28 PM
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Any main character RWBY Potara should be able to handle Cinder. RWBY characters are not that far ahead of others to where fusion won't be a win for who ever is fusing.


How can you be sure on that though? Fusion only works on a powerscaling system.
Fusion is around a 100x increase, rwby gaps that stretch that far as of right now.
100x increase in what? BP's? How do you translate that to a series that doesn't have those? It's apparent that 100x BP does not mean you can do 100x what you were capable of previously. Otherwise Vegetto would be stronger than Beerus.
Eh? If anything, a 100x increase in BP means you're capable of doing MORE than 100 times what you could do previously (see Goku and Piccolo having a PL of around 400 against Raditz while a normal human has 5).

And no, Vegetto would NOT be able to beat Beerus if he's a 100 times stronger than Goku and Vegeta. Beerus can destroy the whole universe as a side affect while fighting, while Boo Arc Goku and Vegeta could at most destroy a solar system with their strongest attack (well, SSJ3 Goku might be able to do it with less). Making them a hundred (or, heck, even a million) times stronger wouldn't make them anywhere strong enough to even dream of taking on Beerus.
Idk if you've watched Super as of yet, but Beerus s***s himself at someone who's biggest feat thus far is destroying a few universes. Goku and Beerus were apparently capable of destroying universes back during the BoG arc. Vegetto if you guys are to be believed, is capable of destroying hundreds of universes, which is FAR above what even Zeno has shown thus far.

There's no way in hell that BP scales your destructive capabilities linearly. Even if there were some smidget of evidence for it, Super has thrown that under the bus.
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I'll just say this regarding power levels correlating to feats. They don't, unless I'm missing something Buu never destroyed more than a planet, and wasn't implied to destroy more than a sun despite being astronomically stronger than Cell. They're only useful in other versus for being able to estimate how much a Dragon Ball character can do who hasn't specifically done those things, for example 18 can poetically destroy a planet virtue of being stronger than Freeza.

Applying that to characters who don't use the Dragon Ball power system and don't use power levels is... Difficult and imperfect to say the least.
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