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Goku vs frost manga power levels?
Topic Started: Nov 29 2016, 06:52 PM (4,529 Views)
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I gave the third form a 3x first form multiplier. Frieza went from 530,000 to about 1,500,000 right? I gave fifth form a 2x fourth form multiplier because we don't know how exactly the RF fight went down. And because it works with the rest of the numbers I have

I have base goku at 500,000,000 because I have him stronger than android 17 and 18. Is that too low?

Goku 500,000,000
First form frost 40,000,000
Second form 80,000,00
Third form 120,000,000
Fourth form 9,600,000,000
Fifth form 19,200,000,000
Ssj goku 25,000,000,000

the goku vs frost fight happens in chapter 9 and 10. Go check out the chapters if you haven't incase you're wondering about anything else

What do you think? Do these work? What are your power levels?
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I believe in the two-base theory and I think that's too low tbh. These are the new levels I use for their fight. I don't use an actual multiplier for Frost like I do for Frieza, I just match it up by how Frost did against Goku.

Goku- 80,000,000,000
First Form Frost- 60,000,000,000
Third Form Frost- 80,000,000,000
Final Form Frost- 1,000,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku- 4,000,000,000,000
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Goku looks like he was still holding back against third form frost so base goku should still be higher than third form, no? To me it looks like he was still warming up

Side note...ssj goku looks awesome there
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Nov 29 2016, 07:24 PM
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Goku looks like he was still holding back against third form frost so base goku should still be higher than third form, no? To me it looks like he was still warming up

Side note...ssj goku looks awesome there
I agree Goku was holding back, which is why I have them equal. Everyone stated that Frost was currently winning the fight.
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That was before that scene though. He was still warming up when they frost was winning

Edit: I guess you could say goku is equal to him when he's not holding back
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Nov 29 2016, 07:29 PM
I guess you could say goku is equal to him when he's not holding back
That's what I meant :p
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Shouldnt frost's multipliers be the same as friezas? Why wouldn't we use the same multipliers?
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Nov 29 2016, 07:38 PM
Shouldnt frost's multipliers be the same as friezas? Why wouldn't we use the same multipliers?
I guess I haven't tried it out yet. Logically it should be that way.
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Using friezas multipliers it's hard to not have a big gap between full power base goku and third form frost

I don't think goku taps into ssjg power level in base form btw. He uses ssjg as its own form in the manga. He could tap into it in the RF manga adaptation but he never did that in the Super manga. It wouldn't make sense since he never absorbed ssjg in the DBS manga
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Nov 29 2016, 07:44 PM
I don't think goku taps into ssjg power level in base form btw. He uses ssjg as its own form in the manga. He could tap into it in the RF manga adaptation but he never did that in the Super manga. It wouldn't make sense since he never absorbed ssjg in the DBS manga
I completely agree. At some point after RF he had learned to tap into the actual transformation.
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What I mean is that there's no evidence of him being able to tap into his ssjg power level in base form in the DBS manga. Only the RF manga. The RF manga was just a promo for the movies. It's different because in the movies goku actually absorbed ssjg. That's what toyotaro was going off of. In the DBS manga he didn't. He was just able to use the transformation.

So basically we don't know how the RF saga would've went down in the DBS manga world. Could've been totally different. Goku had to fight fourth form Frieza in ssjg for all we know
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Where exactly is Goku's normal power at this point? He spent 3 years in the RoSaT, but prior to that, we don't have a good reference of how much time has passed between Boo's defeat and Super's start (at least not that I know of).

Edit: If Pan is the same age, then Super should take place about midway through the 10 year time skip.
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Based on his fight with trunks he shouldn't be that much stronger than his buu saga. Idk why they didn't get much stronger in the ROSAT. All of their potential went to mastering their ki control maybe?
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Nov 30 2016, 12:10 AM
Based on his fight with trunks he shouldn't be that much stronger than his buu saga. Idk why they didn't get much stronger in the ROSAT. All of their potential went to mastering their ki control maybe?
I mean, they wasted three years if that's the case. SSB still drains Vegeta of...90% was it, of his original power if he tries to transform twice in quick succession.
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What I meant is that they went through all their potential learning it with whis. So the three years in ROSAT was to squeeze out whatever was left
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