megasonidow

Nov 28 2016, 05:27 PM

Frost was heavly worn out from his match with Goku when Piccolo fought him,though.There's no guarantee Piccolo would do that well against a full power Frost if he fought him before Goku did,in fact Goku implies Piccolo would stand absolutely no chance.

His feats before this fight with a heavly weakened Frost weren't that impressive at all,either.While I don't doubt Piccolo got much stronger tham he was at Buu Saga due to his training,I don't think it's quite enough to take down Super Perfect Cell just yet.

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You do know Vegeta's character though,and Vegeta was FURIOUS at Frost-what if he transformed only to utterly humiliate Frost but didn't want to waste power using the Blue Form?

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but why trade a few blows on the guy that annoyed him so much

Mr. Hashbrowns

Nov 28 2016, 05:52 PM

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That doesn't make sense. If Vegeta REALLY wanted to humiliate Frost then he would've stayed in Base to show that transforming wasn't even needed.

I suggested Vegeta wanted to humiliate Frost,but you missed the FURIOUS part.He wanted to humiliate frost,yet he was really angry with him,so he just went Super Saiyan on the guy.Again,without wasting energy doing the Blue Form.

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Are you suggesting that weakened Frost could trade a few blows with someone that tanked a forehead punch from SSJ3 Gotenks?

Apparently,that's what YOU suggested first:

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Vegeta felt the need to transform against that same weakened Frost and his Base is >>>> SSJ3 Gotenks.

If Frost wasn't able to trade a few blows with Vegeta's base,then tell me,WHY would Vegeta feel the need to transform?

One thing is transforming to humiliate your opponent,as I suggested: feeling the need to transform would another thing altogether.

Vegeta wouldn't feel he has to transform if Frost couldn't even touch him,let alone trade a few blows: in other words,the post where you suggest Frost can't even trade blows with Base Vegeta while weakened contradicts the post when you said Vegeta felt he had to transform against that same weakened Frost.

Please correct me if I misinterpreted your posts,but that's what I understood from then.

If you can prove to me Vegeta felt he had to transform in order to win after Frost was that weakened,then I'll admit Piccolo did a better showing than the base Saiyans and concede the debate to you.

But if Vegeta in fact didn't have any need to transform as you said on your last post and could beat down Frost easly in base,then it would make no sense that Piccolo's fight against a heavly weakened Frost would prove he did better against him tham the base Saiyans did,considering Goku fought frost while he wasn't weakened and Vegeta could wipe the floor with that same weakened Frost on his base form,while Piccolo had to use all his tricks to get the advantage against Frost.

And thus it would make no sense that his fight against Frost proved he was strong enough to beat Super Perfect Cell all of a sudden,specially considering his best feats in Super before the tournament were...beating down Frieza's soldiers like most Z Fighters were doing,and having to sacrifice himself to save Gohan.