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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 26 2016, 07:01 AM (3,569 Views) | |
| + Ssj3vegito96 | Nov 26 2016, 07:01 AM Post #1 |
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I have a question for the people who are upset about gohan not being a fighter anymore, etc. Gohan finally has finally achieved the life he's always wanted. And now he's doing the best he can to stay strong and protect his family and the life he loves by training with piccolo This is gohan. This is what gohan has built up to be from the beginning of the series. This is just who he is. Future gohan is the gohan we all want of course because he's so cool but he wasn't totally happy. The gohan we're seeing right now is who he really is Shouldn't you be happy for him? Why are you so upset? That's it. He's done. This is the peak of his development |
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| Scotty_Rogers | Nov 26 2016, 09:54 AM Post #2 |
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Except he no longer does, as of episode 52 of Super. The reason why people are upset with Gohan is because he doesn't do anything anymore; he's just a boring background character now. Granted, you can say that about anyone who isn't Goku, Vegeta or Bulma, but Gohan looks particularly bad as he has more potential than almost everyone else and lets it go to waste. He doesn't like fighting, but he should still fight and train anyway so he's strong enough to protect his family. |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Nov 26 2016, 10:38 AM Post #3 |
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I'm salty af with how Super basically buried him, tried to dig him up twice, and then gave up halfway and just put the dirt back on him. Meanwhile taking a piss all over him, then pouring gasoline over the grave, and lighting it up. Then try to justify it by saying he still has the most potential (as if that just takes away everything they did). They utterly destroyed his character, it's one thing to try and stay consistent with how you bury someone, it's a whole 'nother to constantly try and give the slip that he's totally going to change back into a fighter just to slap the people that got hopeful in the face with what is essentially your pimp hand. This is probably why the manga version of Super just outright skipped the FnF arc iirc. Edited by Goddess Ultimecia, Nov 26 2016, 10:39 AM.
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| * Yu Narukami | Nov 26 2016, 10:46 AM Post #4 |
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I don't have an issue with Gohan settling down and becoming a background character. I like it, in fact; it gives the franchise the much needed Slice-of-Life aspect that's been missing from most of the other series. However, it's when they decide to put him into a fight. If you're gonna have him be a weak family man, that's fine. Just don't throw him into a fight where he's inevitably going to get stomped. They're so indecisive about where they want Gohan's character to go, and if he is actually training now, why do they want to try and keep it secret instead of getting fans excited by outright saying ''Gohan's training and is very strong now''? The build-up would be much better than the shock Gohan suddenly turning up to fight and being much stronger. |
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| Tinny | Nov 26 2016, 01:41 PM Post #5 |
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Well for one he's a cartoon character, he can be happy no matter what he's doing if the writers decide but putting that aside, it comes down to two things for me. Portrayal and commitment. The FnF arc had this implication through out most of it that said "that's what you get for not training" it doesn't respect Gohan any more than it respects say, Chi-Chi for their decisions. So that's coloured pretty much everything with Gohan since then. The other is that they've teased him coming back as a fighter twice, likely thrice now without following through on it. If you're gonna make him a family man, don't tell us he's gonna get the band back together only to just drop that later. I don't care that much if he fights, just stick to it, and respect him for it. I think in the end that's all people want, Gohan to be respected, as it is, he isn't. DBS talks about how he'll be a fighter again and again to excite us, instead of simply accepting Gohan for who he is here and respecting him. I don't think people would mind so much, if (ironically) Dragon Ball Super could accept he's not a fighter and respect that. But it can't, so it remains a sore spot. Edited by Tinny, Nov 26 2016, 03:40 PM.
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| + QueenTD | Nov 26 2016, 02:48 PM Post #6 |
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Dragonball GT did Gohan better. He was the same way except Pan barely interacted with her father which...was disturbing. I have no issues with Gohan in Super however. I'm actually just upset in the teasing and the inconsistent direction of his character. They don't know if he's going be a Krillin or a Vegeta. I'm very happy that Gohan have the life that That's my take on it. ![]() Plus I like GT Gohan character design better. That shade of green is nice on him. Better than the blue. Edited by QueenTD, Nov 26 2016, 02:54 PM.
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| lazerbem | Nov 26 2016, 02:59 PM Post #7 |
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Because the show itself hates him. Goku comments on Gohan like he's a joke, Gohan isn't even present in the scene of Zamasu killing Goku's family, Gohan's rage boost is turned into a giant joke, and people feel free to snark about how he's fallen right in front of him. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Nov 26 2016, 03:41 PM Post #8 |
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I'm not. I'm annoyed with the writers for dragging him into things. If his role in this series is to support his family, that's what he should be doing. If he has no interest in fighting, leave him out of it. Piccolo can pick up his slack. If Gohan is going to be shoehorned into battle, let him have an arc that isn't dropped shortly after introducing it. Episode 67 seems to be picking it back up, but his arc should have been more of a focus in the Zamasu arc. Seeing his friend Trunks struggling to save his future should have inspired him, but no, Trunks doesn't mention his struggles, and Piccolo even says, oh, he isn't a fighter anymore, so don't even bother telling him. It's like, make up your mind! Either have an arc or don't. Don't just lay it aside and bring it up again to wet our appetites only to say, "naw, f*** you, Gohan ain't doin' s***." I'll be genuinely surprised if that scene at the end of episode 67 ends up going somewhere, especially since the manga doesn't seem to be touching on it at all. |
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| EMIYA | Nov 26 2016, 05:37 PM Post #9 |
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Because, as pretty much everyone has said, he is wasted potential thrown in for filler. This is a fighting series and so we expect those in combat to fight. But what's more so, this whole "Gohan got weaker" business is the same crap that got him into so much trouble with the Boo Arc. He was supposed to be the one protecting the Earth and he failed at that. His lack of training and lack of keeping up, inadvertently caused Boo to be born and end all the way up with having everyone and the Earth destroyed. And at one point, more than he ever deserved, he gets a helping hand from Elder Kaioshin, gets boosted up past everyone that isn't Vegetto and what does he finally do with this new found power? Nothing...in Super he gets so lazy he can't even properly maintain his Super Saiyan form. And as far as Super goes, his own weakness caused the death of his mentor. This isn't like Yamcha who is just treated as an outsider now who doesn't train and it has no effect on him. Tenshinhan point blank didn't even bother bringing him over to the fight with Freeza I believe. In Gohan's case, his lack of attention to strength and training, actually negatively effects him. And where as anyone with half a brain cell after the Boo Arc would've gotten their asses in line and started keeping their strength up, he continues to be a stupid child constantly touching a hot stove going. "Wha? Why does it still burn? Why Gohan so weak!?" Like you don't want Gohan to be part of the action and be strong? Fine then, shove him and his family up in some apartment, have Yamcha visit them and we will focus on the people who actually matter. |
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| Copy_Ninja | Nov 26 2016, 05:56 PM Post #10 |
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I actually have a different reason than those above: Because Gohan was always built up as something more. Gohan was always the powerhouse who never wanted to be. He was not a Goku or Vegeta who enjoyed fighting but he had the potential to surpass both. He was shown a lesson in the Buu Arc when he slacked on his training and how close the world came to ending: if Gohan had continued as he should have, then he could have avoided a lot of s***. Now, instead of building on that, he's making the exact same mistake again. Would someone as smart as Gohan really do that? I don't think so but Super continues to push that narrative. What makes it worse is that he's now had two potentially world ending threats arrive and still he's not taking things seriously. Maybe (or hopefully) he will in the future but right now it's such a let down. |
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| Cid | Nov 26 2016, 06:42 PM Post #11 |
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Gohan's fall goes against one of the central themes of dbz, which was his ascension. By the buu saga he was the most powerful non-fused character. Goku also seemed determined to pass the ball to the next generation, knowing he wasn't going to be around forever. Goten and Trunks are also suffering from similar character neglect, I would like to see them become more powerful as individuals and not always rely on fusion.
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| DBZAOTA482 | Nov 26 2016, 09:03 PM Post #12 |
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I'm mad at Toriyama and Toei because Gohan isn't well utilized at all. He's only ever relevant to be a punchline on how weak he's become, Toei is constantly making jokes at his expense, and more importantly... he simply isn't interesting to watch/read.
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| + Son-Goku | Nov 26 2016, 10:50 PM Post #13 |
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I actually really like the way Gohan turned out. The only thing I'd do different is add more smaller villains and have him get in on the action there. I don't mind him doing some fighting, just not against the main villains unless he's getting beat up. They need to give more characters than just Gohan a shot imo. They've done a great job with his character though. |
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| Tinny | Nov 26 2016, 11:35 PM Post #14 |
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...Aside from Cell has Gohan ever actually beaten a villain? I mean for the most part I'd say the character that finally defeated the villain was Goku, Jackie Chun if you count Oozaru Goku, but then you have Goku for the rest of the first part of Dragon Ball. Then with Raditz Piccolo puts down the villain with the help of Goku, and...frankly all of the Z-fighters for Vegeta, You get to Freeza and Goku's the one to end the villain again, Cell Gohan does it, and then with Buu the ones to put down are depending on how you view it either Goku, Vegeta, and Buu, or the Earth in general with Mr. Satan playing a pivotal role. Though I guess technically Zeno got to kill a villain, so that'd a modest increase but I wouldn't exactly say that Gohan monopolized the 'characters that get to kill the villain" slot, and for the most part it's still Goku's show. And honestly with how DBS treats Gohan, I can't help but think the creators in charge actually agree with those that are unhappy with Gohan being irrelevant now, only they hate Gohan. |
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| OmegaMagnusDA | Nov 27 2016, 04:54 AM Post #15 |
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I'm not even mad. Gohan was probably watching DBS on GodTube and said "f*** that" I don't want to give Toei a chance to ruin my character lol |
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