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| Killer Croc VS Jake Long | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 15 2016, 10:50 AM (370 Views) | |
| Darker | Nov 15 2016, 10:50 AM Post #1 |
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Killer Croc RT Jake Long RT -Battle takes place on the rooftop of a small building. -Croc before going insane. VS Round 1: Jake can use his firebreath. Round 2: Jake can't use his firebreath. |
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| lazerbem | Nov 15 2016, 11:57 AM Post #2 |
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Fire breath seals the seal fairly easily for Jake, it allows him to strike from range with impunity and given Croc's appearance, he's not likely to be holding back very much with it. Even without fire breath, Jake is strong enough to hold his own and is more agile in his movements. Using his flight advantage and experience, he should be able to take him. |
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| Darker | Nov 15 2016, 02:03 PM Post #3 |
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Croc isn't his idiot self here, the fire breath may give him an edge but it's not unavoidable. He needs to get close to catch Croc off guard, Waylon is fast enough to blitz Batman who regularly dodges bullets, and the closer he gets, the more in danger he is of getting his back broken. ![]() It's not like Croc's going to try and tank Jake's fire breath.
Not sure if doing circles around Croc will be a good idea, he'll be more than ready for whenever Jake tries to strike. And if he's just going to try to beat Croc through skill, he's kinda screwed. I mean Jake is always struggling with people who are leagues below Batman in terms of skill, and Croc was able to take him down three times, almost four discounting the help he got from the Robins and Batgirl. He's also a lot stronger. ![]() Jake will have to rely on his claws, which he rarely uses in combat, from what I've seen, to slice through Croc's tough hide, and again I doubt Croc's just going to stand there and let him do anything, when he's faster than Jake too. And it's not like Jake doesn't get cocky whenever he fights. |
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| lazerbem | Nov 15 2016, 05:46 PM Post #4 |
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The fire has a fair amount of area behind it, it'll he hard to dodge for Croc. If Jake is actually serious about using it, then there's a pretty wide spread on it. The way he spammed it against the Avemetrus is a good example, but he's also been liberal against the Huntsman with wide area blasts. Croc has no way to see it coming either, he's got no clue Jake can breathe fire. Flying around Croc won't help but lifting him and tossing him along with hit and run tactics would work very well, both being stuff he's done in the past. Croc took Batman through strength and the environment, not so much skill. He doesn't have a big strength edge against Jake if any at all, and more importantly lacks the damage output to break Jake's own durability. He was fine after getting smashed twice by the Dark Dragon, Croc isn't going to be crushing him quickly. Jake also has the doppelgangers if it really does get troublesome I'm not convinced pre-crisis is stronger anyway. His showings have been shrugged off by Jake many times Edited by lazerbem, Nov 15 2016, 05:49 PM.
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| Darker | Nov 15 2016, 08:07 PM Post #5 |
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That wouldn't really do much, Croc could see him coming a mile away, plus he's not that fast, and his skin is tough enough to endure any of his punches or tail swipes.
Untrue, otherwise he wouldn't have any showings of how skilled he is, but he does. ![]() He only used his environment in their second encounter, and even then, it was mostly speed and stealth there, and speed is one of Croc's many advantages over Jake. He blitzed Batman multiple times, Jake doesn't have any feats that can compare to that. ![]()
Yes he does. Croc can lift cars without showing any strain, Jake shows strain just by flipping a small dumpster full of fish. ![]()
Does he? Croc can punch and tear through bricks and metal, I'm sure a couple of punches like those would be enough to knock Jake out cold. ![]()
As if Croc couldn't duplicate the Dark Dragon's feats.
That'll be worse for Jake, since it weakens him.
Being slammed into a table hard enough to break it and getting back up immediately afterwards is nothing impressive, even wrestlers can take that kind of abuse. |
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| lazerbem | Nov 15 2016, 08:49 PM Post #6 |
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It wouldn't endure his fire if he chooses to use it, and he does use it liberally.
The first is against some cops, I was referring to Batman specifically. The second is good usage of the environment.
Seems unwise to use against someone who can see in the dark and has enhanced hearing. Stealth won't avail him, and in fact, Jake would probably do better in the dark.
He did dodge an autocannon once. Seemed to be firing conventional ammo by the sound too https://gfycat.com/SadWellinformedGander
Even Haley can do that with ease and she's less strong than Jake is. https://gfycat.com/ArtisticLinearElkhound Also, Season 1 Jake was much weaker than in Season 2. https://gfycat.com/MasculineHugeBats https://gfycat.com/DisloyalYellowDog
So can the Dark Dragon even before his buff, after being buffed he still couldn't drop Jake quickly. Hell, even the Huntsman can punch through brick and he's never gotten close to beating Jake down through punches(though with weapons, sure).
No, he really can't. Just by moving around at any kind of speed, the Dark Dragon is showing himself to be incredibly strong. He weighs at least in the realm of 16-20 tons using a similarly sized sauropod(Apatosaurus) as a reference, that he can move around so quickly shows him to be incredibly strong. ![]() Hell, just his footsteps are cracking the ground. Also, he blows open a street prior to his buff just by flying through it in Hong Kong Knights
It can be reabsorbed quickly and also works for a handy distraction to get a sucker punch in if he's really necessary
That's not the impressive part. The impressive part is being driven into the ground by a dragon the size of a bus and shaking it off quickly. https://gfycat.com/GreedyMeaslyBellsnake And besides, he's taken shots from Haley that do worse https://gfycat.com/HarshPiercingKiwi Or from the kelpie https://gfycat.com/HarshPiercingKiwi Or Chang's fire https://gfycat.com/DimJadedBream Or by Yang Jake(while super weakened, mind you) https://gfycat.com/WelcomeCircularHind |
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| Darker | Nov 15 2016, 09:45 PM Post #7 |
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Hm. Might've picked the wrong Killer Croc for this match. Any suggestions of who would offer more of a fight? |
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| lazerbem | Nov 15 2016, 10:05 PM Post #8 |
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I'd say that for the round with fire, a sort of composite would work. The advantage of range and the power that fire gives Jake can't be underestimated. However, for without fire, maybe New 52? Idk, I heard he's around the same strength. |
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| Darker | Nov 15 2016, 10:08 PM Post #9 |
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Excluding Hydra and Kaiju feats, I suppose? Otherwise I don't think Jake would be able to hurt him.
Just about.
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| lazerbem | Nov 15 2016, 10:40 PM Post #10 |
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Yes, no kaiju or what not. And yeah, New 52 should be about right. |
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| Darker | Nov 15 2016, 10:54 PM Post #11 |
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Post-Hush Croc is on a similar ballpark.![]() I could give him his own round, since he's around New 52 Croc's level of strength, if not above that (maybe). Edited by Darker, Nov 15 2016, 11:00 PM.
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| lazerbem | Nov 16 2016, 12:36 AM Post #12 |
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Yeah, but Hush Croc is dumb as rocks, isn't he? New 52 would probably do better since he wouldn't get tricked into doing something dumb, which is something Jake is decent at. |
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| Darker | Nov 16 2016, 12:46 AM Post #13 |
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Yeah, he's kind of an idiot... But he's smart enough to make bussiness with other gangsters and rob banks on his own, though still as incompetent as everything else after Pre-Crisis Croc. Most of Hush Croc's appearances are just him telling others that he wants to be left alone, so if he saw Jake he'd probably either run away and hide in the sewers or confront Jake with his usual annimalistic style of attacks. He could pull off a couple of wins against Jake w/o the fire breath, since he's more unpredictable and wild. Not like Jake hasn't faced off against rampaging mindless beasts, it's just that Croc's not to be underestimated, especially his jaws.
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