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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 14 2016, 06:25 PM (2,297 Views) | |
| Dankness Lava | Nov 14 2016, 10:21 PM Post #16 |
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It's easy to take more than intended because it takes a long time to kick in. So you might think "Hey I don't feel much yet I'll eat more" when the high just started. And I don't think it has to be a ridiculous amount if potent enough. And not always at once. |
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Nov 14 2016, 10:32 PM Post #17 |
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That's completely inaccurate. It takes such a high amount of weed to kill someone that it's basically impossible to ingest the amount required. |
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| Darker | Nov 14 2016, 10:41 PM Post #18 |
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It's more like I have a very sensitive nose. I hate both those smells, I can't stand them at all, and somehow I surround myself with people and relatives who smoke and drink all the time. That's life I guess. I can't stand the smell of cigarettes either, I feel like that's worse than weed. Any non-healthy addiction can't be good for your body. |
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| + Steve | Nov 14 2016, 10:48 PM Post #19 |
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Well that's still something that people could be taught about were pot legal. Not like you can just casually ask people for pot brownie recipes or they might report you. In school I was taught how much alcohol is safe for men and women so the same sort of thing could be done for pot, if people know how it works that won't be much of an issue. Plus don't most people just put it in food to avoid having people find out? More inconspicuous than smoke of course. |
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| Dankness Lava | Nov 14 2016, 11:39 PM Post #20 |
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Well I don't know about death but ill effects can occur. |
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Nov 15 2016, 07:07 PM Post #21 |
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Like what? |
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| + Son-Goku | Nov 15 2016, 07:12 PM Post #22 |
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I voted maybe because I don't know enough about it to say for sure. I'm not a fan of drugs, but as far as I know it's not as bad as some other stuff that's already legalized. I don't think I'd say I'm against it, but I wouldn't say I'm for it. I have a neutral opinion, I really need to do more research on it. Either way people are going to get their hands on it, so why not make it legal? Idk really, I think I'd just rather stay out of that particular issue. |
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| Dankness Lava | Nov 15 2016, 07:59 PM Post #23 |
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Well my friend was telling me how he knew someone who ate a bunch of edibles and their body started shutting down. |
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Nov 15 2016, 08:43 PM Post #24 |
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I mean, it can make you high to the point where you aren't able to function, but it doesn't do permanent damage to your body like alcohol and tobacco do. |
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| * Mitas | Nov 15 2016, 08:55 PM Post #25 |
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Sort of on topic, but me and my friend were talking about how weird the concept of alcohol is. It's so strange that we willingly put a substance into our body that's so bad for us that our body regularly has to take over and be like' nah mate, this isn't supposed to be in here, back out it goes'. |
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| + Steve | Nov 15 2016, 08:57 PM Post #26 |
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But you can drink so much water that your body basically drowns so literally everything you can consume can mess you up if you have too much. I feel like if people are going to campaign against pot then why don't they ever really campaign against alcohol? It's just stupid. People want to limit what others do but aren't willing to limit what they enjoy in return even if it's a factually much more harmful substance in I think literally all areas. What it does to your body and what it does to cause accidents and whatnot. Dumb saying but seems like the definition of having your cake and eating it too (as opposed to...performing experiments on it I guess?) EDIT I just don't understand how the big wigs don't want to legalize it when it's another way to get them more money... Edited by Steve, Nov 15 2016, 08:58 PM.
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| Sam | Nov 15 2016, 09:22 PM Post #27 |
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I've seen people overconsume edibles. I've also done it. You either become too high to function and possibly paranoid at worst, with some cases simply being you're too giggly. Shutting down? Sorry Shining, you need to look into cannabis  Of course I'm all for it. I have been most of my life even when I condemned people who smoked around me. Why? It is absolutely ludicrous for someone to hold the opinion of 'no' to letting somebody else do something to their own body. I don't care if it's weed, alcohol, or meth. That's coming from someone who grew up intimately in a home that was harshly affected by all three. If you do it in the safety of your own home and don't endanger others around you, have fun. If you drop dead, you either knew the risks going in and weighed that, or natural selection won and weeds somebody out. Either way, it works itself out. There is no war on drugs. Wars end. Drugs will never and can never end. The market is expanding and we are exponentially losing this fight we started and never were winning. It took them years to shut down the internet black market site "Silk Road". Within hours, there was a second one. Anyone progressive should be for the legalization of marijuana. Or just practical. Taxation is important. If it's so high that it's ridiculous, people are still going to grow it in their homes and since it's legal, this will be extremely easy to pull off. If it's too low, there's not much point in poking the voters with a stick and passing the legislation, is there? Finding a healthy balance is important. Also keeping it relative to the harm that cannabis does. Cigarettes are more harmful to the lungs because nicotine acts as a CNS stimulant. Nicotine causes the bronchial tubes to constrict, making your lungs' natural ability to filter out toxins (all the crap in cigarettes) much lower. Marijuana is the opposite. It has been shown in many studies to help many people with asthma because it actually causes the bronchial tubes to dilate, which improves the bodies ability to filter out the harmful components in smoke - and let me make a point of saying: smoking ANYTHING is inherently bad for you. You're combusting a material or chemical and inhaling it. Your lungs are not made for this. But marijuana at least does not hamper your own bodies' natural filtration system, it actually improves it. I think people should have to do it in their own homes, legally. In big cities like Denver, Colorado, I was able to do it on the streets mostly because so many people did it that the law couldn't really be enforced. But this is outside. So even the people that were against marijuana legalization didn't seem that annoyed, at least the ones I talked to. But of course, never inside in public, not in an apartment complex, restaurants, things like that. The same as cigarettes. Do it on your or another consenting persons' property. Don't drive a car, and try to moderate yourself. Just because it won't kill you or shorten your lifespan if you do it a majority of your life like alcohol or tobacco doesn't mean it won't drill the same kind of hole in your wallet. Plus, you're just not that functional if you're more than just buzzed. For me, it kills pain well. I did significant damage to both of my shoulders and my job can be physically demanding. Coming home to my land and smoking a joint to help with that because tylenol is terrible for my liver (taking two tylenol is far, far worse for you than a pot brownie) is not harming anyone. Why are the legal alternatives to things like marijuana more harmful for you? It makes little sense to me. The hemp industry would also thrive, which is sort of why it was made illegal by the logging industries' corporate propaganda in the United States. Our founding fathers had pot farms for chrissakes! xD It's green gold to some, it's stinky s*** to others. But nobody should police somebody else's life because you personally don't like it. If something like that was done to something in your life that relieved a lot of stress because people didn't like that you did it, you'd be pretty pissed. It's why people are backlashing against the Kratom ban and have done historic things in a massive movement against the DEA that is largely going unpublicized that I posted about here: http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/10004785/1/#new I'd really rather not have to go the legal routine of consuming hundreds of calories of alcohol to calm down, and inhale carcinogens to wake up or get strung out on caffeine. Then when I get a headache from all that, hit my liver with tylenol or my stomach with ibuprofen. No thanks. What right does another human being have to impose this on me if I am not harming others? Just my $.02, but, you all probably knew my opinion on this anyway. The DEA needs to pull its head out of its a*** and realize what it can and can't try to fight. Marijuana is a lost battle. The longer we spend trying to fight marijuana legislation, the more harder drugs are being dispersed across the States and the entire world, and associated organized crime that follows it. You lift the ban and these people go away. How many bootleggers have you met since prohibition ended? Seriously. All illegal alcohol production ceased when prohibition was lifted in the U.S. A shining example of how even a very dangerous substance like alcohol, when made illegal, causes more harm than good. Such as the United States poisoning and killing its own citizens with tainted drinks during the 1920s. Edited by Sam, Nov 15 2016, 09:36 PM.
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| + Steve | Nov 15 2016, 09:44 PM Post #28 |
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I can agree with that, if someone wants to destroy their body/lives or just take the edge off with meth or heroin that's their choice. If people don't find that respectable it then...so what? Not like people who go that far off the rails would ever become President at the same time or anything, if they don't rehabilitate or control themselves at all ever then they just become the kind of gutter trash that already exists and will always exist. (Don't mean to imply that anyone that goes off the rails on drugs is a bad person or anything there) Encourage them to get clean but don't give them free healthcare and the problem sorts itself out. Fine line between allowing people to take drugs and completely being an enabler. Almost as if people think that in the event we legalized things like this that we'd have public speakers taking a moment to shoot up on live TV, children would be doing lines in the playground and that society would collapse within days. People don't not take drugs just because it's illegal, they are capable of understanding the negatives and not wanting them unless they're incredibly naive. Moreover if all this stuff was legal then more research could be put in to it so perhaps heroin that wasn't so wildly addictive and dangerous could be made. And other things obviously. Edited by Steve, Nov 15 2016, 09:48 PM.
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Nov 15 2016, 10:26 PM Post #29 |
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My state was one of the four out of nine this past voting cycle that legalized weed. The law will basically be identical to the liqour law. However, the full "legalization" doesn't actually take effect until December 15th. The benefits from taxation of weed far outweigh the cons of keeping it illegal. Colorado used the taxes they got from weed to rebuild schools and roads. You can't get much more beneficial than that. A lot of that tax money, ironically, is going to combat the heroine epidemic in the US right now. In addition to this, it puts a huge plug on the Mexican Cartels' cashflow because "dirt weed" is almost always number one of their outsourced products. Cartels grow it in Mexico, and sell it in the US. It's low quality weed without much THC, but they rake in the cash because they have no competition in the US. With higher quality weed that you can buy legally, and the ability to grow your own for personal use, why would you waste money on Mexican dirt weed? |
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| Political Piper | Nov 15 2016, 11:26 PM Post #30 |
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Sam - That actually pissed me off - the kratom ban. I used Kratom a lot growing up due to its analgesic effects. I had a lot of pain, the DEA now scheduled that but you can still order Tramadol online which is a semi-narcotic. I remember when you could buy Somas online legally. They're non addicting muscle relaxers that worked great. The war on drugs is a losing profit. So to combat this they just keep on making more things illegal. It's pretty sad.. |
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