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| BoDB Goku vs BoDB Krillin & Man-Wolf vs BoDB Yamcha & Pamput; Team match amongst early DB characters. | |
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| Thiln | Oct 2 2016, 05:18 PM Post #1 |
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![]() VS ![]() ![]() VS ![]() ![]() A three-way team battle with characters who would be considered impressive by "normal human" standards. Restrictions are weapons, transforming, and the Kamehameha. This is strictly hand-to-hand. The battlefield is the old tournament stadium. There are no rules. Who wins? Scenario 2: The Kamehameha is available to Goku. Weapons are also permissible which includes Goku's Power Pole, Man-Wolf's knife, and Yamcha's scimitar. |
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| + Son-Goku | Oct 2 2016, 05:41 PM Post #2 |
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It comes down to Man-Wolf and Pamput imo. Goku's Kamehameha wouldn't help a whole lot in the second scenario, nor would everyone's weapons. I'm giving it to Pamput, Roshi admitted that Pamput was a skilled fighter while he said no such thing about Man-Wolf who he fought against. |
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| SuperSaiyan3 | Oct 2 2016, 06:06 PM Post #3 |
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Id say Yamcha and Pamput Goku would take out Krillen but not without a fight. Pamput and Yamcha would double team Man-Wolf and Yamcha could finish off Goku since he would be tired from Krillen. Thus leaving Pamput and Yamcha the winners |
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| + Emmeth | Oct 2 2016, 06:09 PM Post #4 |
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Yamcha is irrelevant on the third team and Krillin is irrelevant on team two. BoDB is not good enough to beat Man-Wolf or Pamput, this basically comes down to Man-Wolf vs Pamput which the latter wins easily as his recognized as a really good martial artist. |
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| Thiln | Oct 2 2016, 07:32 PM Post #5 |
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Please keep in mind the relative feats of Pamput in comparison to someone like Yamcha. Spoiler: click to toggle Pamput's act of destroying the tournament wall was considered to be remarkable. However, when you juxtapose it with Yamcha's attack against Goku, you'll notice a stark contrast in the sheer strength emitted. Man-Wolf isn't much different. He was able to regain his bearings after colliding with the wall and partially damaging it in the process. Edited by Thiln, Oct 2 2016, 07:34 PM.
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Oct 2 2016, 08:37 PM Post #6 |
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Goku. He'll find a way to win, just like he found a way to make his heart beat again after demon Piccolo killed him. lol |
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| + Emmeth | Oct 3 2016, 07:52 AM Post #7 |
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You can't compare early DB to mid DB like that. Sure, Yamcha had some impressive moves back then but he's fighting a weaker Goku. The tournament announcer didn't seem to think he was without chance when he announced him. Now, you have to consider what "ordinary level" is and where it breaks lose and becomes "inhuman". Chapter: 122, P13.2-5 Kuririn: “But I knew you’d win for sure! Despite how incredible they said he was, he didn’t look all that great!” Goku: “Maybe he was just in bad form today” Kame-sennin: “Hohhohhoh…That’s not it. Panput truly was a fearsomely skilled master, but only when seen from an ordinary level…To your eyes, however, he didn’t look like anything special…That shows just how much you two have acquired strength that surpasses the ordinary.” |
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| Thiln | Oct 3 2016, 11:55 AM Post #8 |
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Did the announcer ever articulate a belief in the possibility of Pamput winning? He seemed to only give some background information regarding Pamput plus hype which appeared to be centred around his previous accomplishments and some showmanship. In comparison to Yamcha who propelled Goku through multiple outcrop pillars, Pamput didn't seem that impressive. Chapter: 28, P12.1 Kame-sennin: “Hm—mm…that’s absurdly fast…You two are both really something. However, that’s entirely from a human level. In order to become a complete martial artist, you must overcome this wall called ‘human’. This is hard to do…” This is what Roshi had to say of Goku and Krillin at the beginning of the series when their respective times were clocked at 8.5 and 10.4 seconds. An out of practice Roshi who was merely demonstrating what exceeding "normal human boundaries" is like clocked at 5 seconds. Chapter: 28, P13.2-3 Context: after Kame-sennin runs 100 meters Kame-sennin: “How many seconds?” Goku: “So…so fast!” Kuririn: “Fi…fi-fi…5.6…seconds…” Kame-sennin: “5.6 seconds, huh? Well well, is that so?...This is what it means to overcome the human. You guys are young, so depending on your training you may even be able to break 5 seconds.” So the discrepancy between 5.6 which is "overcoming the human" and Goku's "human limits" 8.5 is 1.9 seconds. Are you going to tell me Pamput fits somewhere in that discrepancy despite his feats being of an arguably poorer quality than BoDB Yamcha's? |
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| + Emmeth | Oct 3 2016, 01:17 PM Post #9 |
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Think of it like this then: Way later in the manga, during the 25th TB, the Tournament Announcer says the latest tournaments have been very sub-par compared to the tournaments Goku and his friends competed in. This gives merit to the likes of Giran, Nam, Pamput and Man-Wolf, unless you believe Mr. Satan is like a normal human. |
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| Darker | Oct 3 2016, 01:47 PM Post #10 |
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I don't see BoDB surviving this, to be honest. I have no doubt he'll be the first to fall. |
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