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"Religion is the reason the world is bad"
Topic Started: Sep 25 2016, 02:54 AM (1,973 Views)
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Probably what is being referred to is how everyone always fought wars, and still do, over religion. One person's religion is different from someone else's so then they don't like the person and they go and kill each other.
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Sep 26 2016, 04:13 AM
Probably what is being referred to is how everyone always fought wars, and still do, over religion. One person's religion is different from someone else's so then they don't like the person and they go and kill each other.
There's more to it than that.
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Sep 26 2016, 04:14 AM
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Probably what is being referred to is how everyone always fought wars, and still do, over religion. One person's religion is different from someone else's so then they don't like the person and they go and kill each other.
There's more to it than that.
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I'd say it has to more with religious extremism, then religion itself, but it all boils down to that humans are flawed creatures.
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Religion is not the reason for suffering. Humans are just f***ing terrible. As sociopathic as that may sound, it's true. We do a lot of harm to each other and the planet. A lot of the reason is selfishness
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Sep 25 2016, 03:26 AM
Humans are the reason

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Studies have been conducted about this subject and the staggering result is, it has been related (majority) to nationalism as the underline motivation. I'm not defending religion at all, religion and its churches, Pope's has played a huge role, but to say religion itself is the reason the world is bad is laughable when you consider the horrible s*** pre-religion has unleashed on the ancient world and the reasons for two of the world wars in modern day W.W.1 and 2 and post W.W.2 and Stalin's Marxism and Mao Zedong (religion is poison), Albania (article 37) and Karl Marx (Religion is the opium of the people) had nothing to do with religion.

At the end of the day, human beings are the problem either God willed them to write the bible or humans made up the stories, humans are the ones that put pen to paper and re-edited the scriptures to suit their needs at the their times.

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Religion has been used as justification to do bad things to other people, without religion, it's harder to justify those actions.

Why is homosexuality such a taboo? Because of religious doctrine, teaches people it is bad and a sin, religious texts also say it is punishable by death, therefore justifying the killing of anyone who is a bit gay. Or the justification of killing those who don't worship the same god as you, or even blasphemy.

Religion is a concept invented by humans for the purpose of control and justification. Can the same be accomplished without religion? Yes, politics and big business, anyone with control has the power to justify actions taken, allowing atrocities to be committed in the name of something or other, the current one would be the war on terror allowing governments to pass legislation that normally wouldn't get through, extra surveillance measures, unjustified wars and so forth.

People are the problem, religion is just a tool.
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Sep 25 2016, 02:56 AM
THE reason? Nah. But it definitely can play a role in evil behavior.
Exactly my thoughts.

It's all based on perspective really. What I view as bad, (Muslims being put to death because they left Islam), the Muslims would view that as good. In their mind, the purge is a good thing.

We as humans disagree on a lot of things. Religion and it's social teachings is definitely the biggest one.

There is a lot of good that comes from organized Religion also. You just have to know where to find it.
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'True' love doesn't exist. Love exists, but 'true love' is something created in movies and greetings cards.
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Sep 27 2016, 05:56 PM
'True' love doesn't exist. Love exists, but 'true love' is something created in movies and greetings cards.
Are you talking in a romantic sense? Because I'm pretty sure there is a true love. You don't think the unconditional love a mother would show to their kid is true love? Agape love?
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Sep 27 2016, 05:54 PM
The real question is, what is true love?
Off topic, that's what.

But I'll echo Mitas and say it doesn't exist. Even a love between a mother and her child isn't the perfect, romanticized love that true love is meant to symbolize.
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How would you define love in one word?
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Love. Why one word? You can barely describe anything in one word, let alone something as complex as love.

And I say 'true' love doesn't exist because it doesn't. Love is love. There's no 'true' form to it, it just is what it is, a complex emotion that can exist in many different forms.
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