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Goten,trunks and kami piccolo vs; Who takes this win
Topic Started: Sep 16 2016, 11:27 AM (1,471 Views)
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Sep 16 2016, 06:06 PM
Actually is this pre RoSaT kids or Post RoSaT kids. Because if it's post, then the kids win this by themselves as ssjs. lol
How strong do you have post roast kids? And this is everyone at they strongest. And this is piccolo that went against 17. But if it was a stronger piccolo I would had said post roast piccolo. But even if the kid are strong as a Assj I still have them losing. I said the reason on top in the early post. But they do have a chance of wining also if the androids not working together.
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Who is to say that Goten and Trunks would selectively single out #16 and Cell? They can't sense the former and Cell would likely resort to Taiyoken once he saw what was going on.


Problem is Goten and Trunks could have almost the entire team wiped out before Cell realizes what he needs to do, especially now considering the kids are post-RoSaT. That only adds insult to injury.
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Sep 16 2016, 06:17 PM
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Who is to say that Goten and Trunks would selectively single out #16 and Cell? They can't sense the former and Cell would likely resort to Taiyoken once he saw what was going on.


Problem is Goten and Trunks could have almost the entire team wiped out before Cell realizes what he needs to do, especially now considering the kids are post-RoSaT. That only adds insult to injury.
They could but cell is a quick worker when it comes to him Survive. He know for him to survive and win this fight he need the other androids help. So there for 18,14,8,15 would be on the attack. while cell,gero,19, and 16 work they last resort plan to put the kids down. The boy's most likely won't go straight for the kill against 18,14,8,15 but they may injury them or may even kill them. But by that time cell would had solar flare. Cell knows not to charge his opponent that's lead ahead of him.
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Sep 16 2016, 06:06 PM
Actually is this pre RoSaT kids or Post RoSaT kids. Because if it's post, then the kids win this by themselves as ssjs. lol
How strong do you have post roast kids? And this is everyone at they strongest. And this is piccolo that went against 17. But if it was a stronger piccolo I would had said post roast piccolo. But even if the kid are strong as a Assj I still have them losing. I said the reason on top in the early post. But they do have a chance of wining also if the androids not working together.
Trunks (post-ROSAT)- 16,000,000
--Super Saiyan- 800,000,000
Goten (post-ROSAT)- 15,000,000
--Super Saiyan- 750,000,000

So above 16 pl wise. They trained hard in the RoSaT. The adults + Gohan trained in the RoSaT to surpass the cyborgs & 16 back in Cell Saga. So it makes sense that thy make similar gains. lol
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We don't know precisely how much the kids improved by. Our only evidence is Gotenks' strength and Piccolo becoming the dominant absorption avatar for Buu once the fusion dissolved.

Again, I cite Goku's continued resistance against 50% Freeza as a point of reference that abnormally large power gaps aren't a singular guarantee for utter defeat in one blow.
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Actually is this pre RoSaT kids or Post RoSaT kids. Because if it's post, then the kids win this by themselves as ssjs. lol
How strong do you have post roast kids? And this is everyone at they strongest. And this is piccolo that went against 17. But if it was a stronger piccolo I would had said post roast piccolo. But even if the kid are strong as a Assj I still have them losing. I said the reason on top in the early post. But they do have a chance of wining also if the androids not working together.
Trunks (post-ROSAT)- 16,000,000
--Super Saiyan- 800,000,000
Goten (post-ROSAT)- 15,000,000
--Super Saiyan- 750,000,000

So above 16 pl wise. They trained hard in the RoSaT. The adults + Gohan trained in the RoSaT to surpass the cyborgs & 16 back in Cell Saga. So it makes sense that thy make similar gains. lol
They was only in the time chamber for 2 months so they gains won't be the same as gohan,vegeta and goku. They stay in for a year compared to they two months.
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Goten and Trunks, in base form and pre-rosat, can somewhat tangle with an opponent Super Saiyan Vegeta (Android saga) couldn't match and was outclassed by at least 5 stronger fighters (Lazuli, Lapis, Imperfect Cell, Kamiccolo, and 16).

If they go Super Saiyan, they'd one shot the whole team. I'm not saying Piccolo probably lacks power compared to them as Super Saiyans but the guy was clearly shocked at their battle power even though he saw Super Saiyan Kid Gohan's battle power during the Cell saga. I think it's safe to assume the kids have excellent control of the form considering no one knew they were that strong. That kiai Super Saiyan Trunks used during the tournament was child's play for him.

In regards to them not blitzing anyone, even though it's non-canon or whatever, they did pretty much stomped the biowarriors in Bio-Broly.
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Again, I cite Goku's continued resistance against 50% Freeza as a point of reference that abnormally large power gaps aren't a singular guarantee for utter defeat in one blow.
Freeza was pulling his punches to prolong the torture. He could've taken Goku's head off in a flash if he wanted.

If Goten and Trunks want these androids dead, they will all die in one hit, save for Cell would would require a ki blast. And now that I look at the list again, why the f*** is Android 8 even here?
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Sep 16 2016, 06:06 PM
Actually is this pre RoSaT kids or Post RoSaT kids. Because if it's post, then the kids win this by themselves as ssjs. lol
How strong do you have post roast kids? And this is everyone at they strongest. And this is piccolo that went against 17. But if it was a stronger piccolo I would had said post roast piccolo. But even if the kid are strong as a Assj I still have them losing. I said the reason on top in the early post. But they do have a chance of wining also if the androids not working together.
Trunks (post-ROSAT)- 16,000,000
--Super Saiyan- 800,000,000
Goten (post-ROSAT)- 15,000,000
--Super Saiyan- 750,000,000

So above 16 pl wise. They trained hard in the RoSaT. The adults + Gohan trained in the RoSaT to surpass the cyborgs & 16 back in Cell Saga. So it makes sense that thy make similar gains. lol
They was only in the time chamber for 2 months so they gains won't be the same as gohan,vegeta and goku. They stay in for a year compared to they two months.
I know. That's why I have them below the mssjs & assj Vegeta & Semi Perfect Cell because of the time spent there. Why do you have the post RoSaT ssj kids weaker than 16. lol
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Sep 16 2016, 06:32 PM
Goten and Trunks, in base form and pre-rosat, can somewhat tangle with an opponent Super Saiyan Vegeta (Android saga) couldn't match and was outclassed by at least 5 stronger fighters (Lazuli, Lapis, Imperfect Cell, Kamiccolo, and 16).

If they go Super Saiyan, they'd one shot the whole team. I'm not saying Piccolo probably lacks power compared to them as Super Saiyans but the guy was clearly shocked at their battle power even though he saw Super Saiyan Kid Gohan's battle power during the Cell saga. I think it's safe to assume the kids have excellent control of the form considering no one knew they were that strong. That kiai Super Saiyan Trunks used during the tournament was child's play for him.

In regards to them not blitzing anyone, even though it's non-canon or whatever, they did pretty much stomped the biowarriors in Bio-Broly.
Don't used the bio broly movie because that would mean 18 and krillin is just as strong. And what ever they gains was it can't be greater then Assj. That being said assj can one shot theses androids. But they won't be able to do that if they got flash. After cell does solar flare he can simply travel under ground and stab trunks in the neck then drain his energy.
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Freeza didn't need to power up to 50%. He could have used 3-4% of his power and the mechanics of combat in DBZ would have dictated that the fight is one-sided. Using 50% was a needless and excessive risk for the result he was aspiring to create.

Many of these cyborgs/androids aren't exactly necessary to the actual plan. Their role primarily would be to act as a simple distraction which surely they can do if only for a few seconds. Cell witnesses what's going on, then he proceeds to use Taiyoken and follow through with my suggested plan of attack earlier.
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Sep 16 2016, 06:35 PM
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Again, I cite Goku's continued resistance against 50% Freeza as a point of reference that abnormally large power gaps aren't a singular guarantee for utter defeat in one blow.
Freeza was pulling his punches to prolong the torture. He could've taken Goku's head off in a flash if he wanted.

If Goten and Trunks want these androids dead, they will all die in one hit, save for Cell would would require a ki blast. And now that I look at the list again, why the f*** is Android 8 even here?
Lmao android 8 is a meat shield nothing more. And the boy's could but they won't. For the simple fact of them not knowing what theses androids can do. And not taking it serious from the start. Now if this was Assj vegeta and Assj trunks I would give it to them. Why because they know what theses androids can do so they tactics won't work on them. It would be just like piccolo trying grab nappa tail at that point.
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Sep 16 2016, 06:06 PM
Actually is this pre RoSaT kids or Post RoSaT kids. Because if it's post, then the kids win this by themselves as ssjs. lol
How strong do you have post roast kids? And this is everyone at they strongest. And this is piccolo that went against 17. But if it was a stronger piccolo I would had said post roast piccolo. But even if the kid are strong as a Assj I still have them losing. I said the reason on top in the early post. But they do have a chance of wining also if the androids not working together.
Trunks (post-ROSAT)- 16,000,000
--Super Saiyan- 800,000,000
Goten (post-ROSAT)- 15,000,000
--Super Saiyan- 750,000,000

So above 16 pl wise. They trained hard in the RoSaT. The adults + Gohan trained in the RoSaT to surpass the cyborgs & 16 back in Cell Saga. So it makes sense that thy make similar gains. lol
They was only in the time chamber for 2 months so they gains won't be the same as gohan,vegeta and goku. They stay in for a year compared to they two months.
I know. That's why I have them below the mssjs & assj Vegeta & Semi Perfect Cell because of the time spent there. Why do you have the post RoSaT ssj kids weaker than 16. lol
When have i said they post roast is weaker then 16? They can be strong and still die by his explosion. If it would had damage cell then it would for sure damage them.
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Goten and Trunks, in base form and pre-rosat, can somewhat tangle with an opponent Super Saiyan Vegeta (Android saga) couldn't match and was outclassed by at least 5 stronger fighters (Lazuli, Lapis, Imperfect Cell, Kamiccolo, and 16).

If they go Super Saiyan, they'd one shot the whole team. I'm not saying Piccolo probably lacks power compared to them as Super Saiyans but the guy was clearly shocked at their battle power even though he saw Super Saiyan Kid Gohan's battle power during the Cell saga. I think it's safe to assume the kids have excellent control of the form considering no one knew they were that strong. That kiai Super Saiyan Trunks used during the tournament was child's play for him.

In regards to them not blitzing anyone, even though it's non-canon or whatever, they did pretty much stomped the biowarriors in Bio-Broly.
Don't used the bio broly movie because that would mean 18 and krillin is just as strong. And what ever they gains was it can't be greater then Assj. That being said assj can one shot theses androids. But they won't be able to do that if they got flash. After cell does solar flare he can simply travel under ground and stab trunks in the neck then drain his energy.
18 and Krillin were destroyed in that movie. Lazuli thought she was strong enough and was knocked out, Krillin only used a Destructo Disk so I don't see how this makes them look strong. Only people that could stand up to him was Goten and Trunks, that says a lot for their power.
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Goten and Trunks, in base form and pre-rosat, can somewhat tangle with an opponent Super Saiyan Vegeta (Android saga) couldn't match and was outclassed by at least 5 stronger fighters (Lazuli, Lapis, Imperfect Cell, Kamiccolo, and 16).

If they go Super Saiyan, they'd one shot the whole team. I'm not saying Piccolo probably lacks power compared to them as Super Saiyans but the guy was clearly shocked at their battle power even though he saw Super Saiyan Kid Gohan's battle power during the Cell saga. I think it's safe to assume the kids have excellent control of the form considering no one knew they were that strong. That kiai Super Saiyan Trunks used during the tournament was child's play for him.

In regards to them not blitzing anyone, even though it's non-canon or whatever, they did pretty much stomped the biowarriors in Bio-Broly.
Don't used the bio broly movie because that would mean 18 and krillin is just as strong. And what ever they gains was it can't be greater then Assj. That being said assj can one shot theses androids. But they won't be able to do that if they got flash. After cell does solar flare he can simply travel under ground and stab trunks in the neck then drain his energy.
18 and Krillin were destroyed in that movie. Lazuli thought she was strong enough and was knocked out, Krillin only used a Destructo Disk so I don't see how this makes them look strong. Only people that could stand up to him was Goten and Trunks, that says a lot for their power.
Either way people look at the movie and the show as separate. I'm obviously talking about the goten and trunks in the show and not the movie. I try using the movie combined with the show before and that wasn't allow unless I include it from the start. Like 13,14,15 are different because I included they character from the start.
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