Vegeta (after fighting Recoome) Vs piccolo just arrive on namek

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Vegeta (after fighting Recoome) Vs piccolo just arrive on namek; Who win this fight?
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~~Squall Strife~~	Sep 13 2016, 03:52 AM Post #46
Posts: 1,188 Group: Suspended Member #13,373 Joined: July 12, 2016 Gender Male	Son Goten Sep 13 2016, 03:41 AM Squall Strife Sep 13 2016, 03:37 AM Freeza didn't even break a sweat. He was amused. Nothing more, nothing less. The fact that he powered up @ the end implies this. lol Frieza had to break away from Vegeta. If Frieza could have hit Vegeta, then he probably would have. Vegeta took a pissed off Frieza head on. Yeah, he was exhausted but like I said before if Vegeta was less than half of Frieza's power he would not have been able to have done what he did. I don't know why you are having him so low. Are you trolling? Vegeta didn't even do anything. He was tired, Freeza wasn't. If they were around par with each other, than Freeza should be visibly tired, but he's not. He's shoen that he is smiling after the fight. So the point still stands. lol
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SSJ	Sep 13 2016, 03:52 AM Post #47
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:50 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:50 AM Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:46 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:42 AM Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:41 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:39 AM Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:39 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:35 AM If he may have a chance, why would he be only 320k post fusion or whatever you have him at. That is laughable. His merged self isn't a lock to win, so there doesn't need to be. A stomp against him doesn't make sense tho. What kind of power-up do you think Freeza performed? When? 530k obviously. Prior to that I'd say 400k. Vegeta still thought both him and Goku were f*ed prior to fighting Ginyu. Did Vegeta forget Goku could increase his power many times? No, he factored that into his "Super Saiyan" estimate. The math of this section doesn't add up. Why? Gokuwas 360k with Kaioken. Vegeta was inferior, so was 250k. Piccolo was a beast, but still a s*, so 290k.



+ Pyrus	Sep 13 2016, 03:54 AM Post #48
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:52 AM Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:50 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:50 AM Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:46 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:42 AM Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:41 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:39 AM Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:39 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:35 AM If he may have a chance, why would he be only 320k post fusion or whatever you have him at. That is laughable. His merged self isn't a lock to win, so there doesn't need to be. A stomp against him doesn't make sense tho. What kind of power-up do you think Freeza performed? When? 530k obviously. Prior to that I'd say 400k. Vegeta still thought both him and Goku were f*ed prior to fighting Ginyu. Did Vegeta forget Goku could increase his power many times? No, he factored that into his "Super Saiyan" estimate. The math of this section doesn't add up. Why? Gokuwas 360k with Kaioken. Vegeta was inferior, so was 250k. Piccolo was a beast, but still a s*, so 290k. Let's backtrack a bit here. I concede. Piccolo is half of 1st Form Freeza.
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+ Son-Goku	Sep 13 2016, 03:55 AM Post #49
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Squall Strife Sep 13 2016, 03:52 AM Son Goten Sep 13 2016, 03:41 AM Squall Strife Sep 13 2016, 03:37 AM Freeza didn't even break a sweat. He was amused. Nothing more, nothing less. The fact that he powered up @ the end implies this. lol Frieza had to break away from Vegeta. If Frieza could have hit Vegeta, then he probably would have. Vegeta took a pissed off Frieza head on. Yeah, he was exhausted but like I said before if Vegeta was less than half of Frieza's power he would not have been able to have done what he did. I don't know why you are having him so low. Are you trolling? Vegeta didn't even do anything. He was tired, Freeza wasn't. If they were around par with each other, than Freeza should be visibly tired, but he's not. He's shoen that he is smiling after the fight. So the point still stands. lol 500,000 to 530,000 is not on par, nor did I say they were on par. But it's a close enough strength where Vegeta was able to do what he could. Vegeta could also have been closer to 530,000, it doesn't matter. We were shown that he was close enough to block Frieza's punches but not win. If he is less than half . . . uh yeah then Frieza would have creamed him.
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SSJ	Sep 13 2016, 03:55 AM Post #50
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:54 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:52 AM Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:50 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:50 AM Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:46 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:42 AM Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:41 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:39 AM Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:39 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:35 AM If he may have a chance, why would he be only 320k post fusion or whatever you have him at. That is laughable. His merged self isn't a lock to win, so there doesn't need to be. A stomp against him doesn't make sense tho. What kind of power-up do you think Freeza performed? When? 530k obviously. Prior to that I'd say 400k. Vegeta still thought both him and Goku were f*ed prior to fighting Ginyu. Did Vegeta forget Goku could increase his power many times? No, he factored that into his "Super Saiyan" estimate. The math of this section doesn't add up. Why? Gokuwas 360k with Kaioken. Vegeta was inferior, so was 250k. Piccolo was a beast, but still a s*, so 290k. Let's backtrack a bit here. I concede. Piccolo is half of 1st Form Freeza. I don't accept your concession. I lose.



~~Squall Strife~~	Sep 13 2016, 04:02 AM Post #51
Posts: 1,188 Group: Suspended Member #13,373 Joined: July 12, 2016 Gender Male	Son Goten Sep 13 2016, 03:55 AM Squall Strife Sep 13 2016, 03:52 AM Son Goten Sep 13 2016, 03:41 AM Squall Strife Sep 13 2016, 03:37 AM Freeza didn't even break a sweat. He was amused. Nothing more, nothing less. The fact that he powered up @ the end implies this. lol Frieza had to break away from Vegeta. If Frieza could have hit Vegeta, then he probably would have. Vegeta took a pissed off Frieza head on. Yeah, he was exhausted but like I said before if Vegeta was less than half of Frieza's power he would not have been able to have done what he did. I don't know why you are having him so low. Are you trolling? Vegeta didn't even do anything. He was tired, Freeza wasn't. If they were around par with each other, than Freeza should be visibly tired, but he's not. He's shoen that he is smiling after the fight. So the point still stands. lol 500,000 to 530,000 is not on par, nor did I say they were on par. But it's a close enough strength where Vegeta was able to do what he could. Vegeta could also have been closer to 530,000, it doesn't matter. We were shown that he was close enough to block Frieza's punches but not win. If he is less than half . . . uh yeah then Frieza would have creamed him. . Your points are all over the place, it's difficult to know what you are implying. So now Vegeta is less than Freeza. Freeza wasn't even powered up to 100% on first form. He did that @ the end. The way he was talking in the end, implies he was toying with Vegeta. Nit really as Freeza likes to take his time in torturing his opponents. This has been shown and idthink it would change suddenly. lol
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+ Pyrus	Sep 13 2016, 04:02 AM Post #52
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:55 AM Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:54 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:52 AM Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:50 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:50 AM Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:46 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:42 AM Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:41 AM SuperSaiyan2 Sep 13 2016, 03:39 AM Pyrus Sep 13 2016, 03:39 AM Quoting limited to 10 levels deep A stomp against him doesn't make sense tho. What kind of power-up do you think Freeza performed? When? 530k obviously. Prior to that I'd say 400k. Vegeta still thought both him and Goku were f*ed prior to fighting Ginyu. Did Vegeta forget Goku could increase his power many times? No, he factored that into his "Super Saiyan" estimate. The math of this section doesn't add up. Why? Gokuwas 360k with Kaioken. Vegeta was inferior, so was 250k. Piccolo was a beast, but still a s*, so 290k. Let's backtrack a bit here. I concede. Piccolo is half of 1st Form Freeza. I don't accept your concession. I lose. Think of it this way: Spoiler: click to toggle ? I realize I was being biased and oppressing Piccolo. I looked at old posts and didn't seem to have much of a problem with Piccolo being around 200,000 before, so I guess it doesn't matter here.
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ryan1227	Sep 13 2016, 04:05 AM Post #53
Posts: 502 Group: Member Member #13,168 Joined: May 21, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Squall Strife Sep 13 2016, 04:02 AM Son Goten Sep 13 2016, 03:55 AM Squall Strife Sep 13 2016, 03:52 AM Son Goten Sep 13 2016, 03:41 AM Squall Strife Sep 13 2016, 03:37 AM Freeza didn't even break a sweat. He was amused. Nothing more, nothing less. The fact that he powered up @ the end implies this. lol Frieza had to break away from Vegeta. If Frieza could have hit Vegeta, then he probably would have. Vegeta took a pissed off Frieza head on. Yeah, he was exhausted but like I said before if Vegeta was less than half of Frieza's power he would not have been able to have done what he did. I don't know why you are having him so low. Are you trolling? Vegeta didn't even do anything. He was tired, Freeza wasn't. If they were around par with each other, than Freeza should be visibly tired, but he's not. He's shoen that he is smiling after the fight. So the point still stands. lol 500,000 to 530,000 is not on par, nor did I say they were on par. But it's a close enough strength where Vegeta was able to do what he could. Vegeta could also have been closer to 530,000, it doesn't matter. We were shown that he was close enough to block Frieza's punches but not win. If he is less than half . . . uh yeah then Frieza would have creamed him. . Your points are all over the place, it's difficult to know what you are implying. So now Vegeta is less than Freeza. Freeza wasn't even powered up to 100% on first form. He did that @ the end. The way he was talking in the end, implies he was toying with Vegeta. Nit really as Freeza likes to take his time in torturing his opponents. This has been shown and idthink it would change suddenly. lol Chapter: 296 (DBZ 102), P4.4 Context: after Freeza blows off his battle jacket Vegeta: “How is that a transformation?...You’ve got to be kidding me! To think that by ‘transformation’ you just meant taking that off to make yourself lighter!” It wasn't a power up. all he did was blow off his armor. He was talking that way because he was only in his first form. He knew that he would crush Vegeta and co in his second form. Kuririn even pointed out that Freeza was acting oddly calm.



+ Son-Goku	Sep 13 2016, 04:05 AM Post #54
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Squall Strife Sep 13 2016, 04:02 AM Son Goten Sep 13 2016, 03:55 AM Squall Strife Sep 13 2016, 03:52 AM Son Goten Sep 13 2016, 03:41 AM Squall Strife Sep 13 2016, 03:37 AM Freeza didn't even break a sweat. He was amused. Nothing more, nothing less. The fact that he powered up @ the end implies this. lol Frieza had to break away from Vegeta. If Frieza could have hit Vegeta, then he probably would have. Vegeta took a pissed off Frieza head on. Yeah, he was exhausted but like I said before if Vegeta was less than half of Frieza's power he would not have been able to have done what he did. I don't know why you are having him so low. Are you trolling? Vegeta didn't even do anything. He was tired, Freeza wasn't. If they were around par with each other, than Freeza should be visibly tired, but he's not. He's shoen that he is smiling after the fight. So the point still stands. lol 500,000 to 530,000 is not on par, nor did I say they were on par. But it's a close enough strength where Vegeta was able to do what he could. Vegeta could also have been closer to 530,000, it doesn't matter. We were shown that he was close enough to block Frieza's punches but not win. If he is less than half . . . uh yeah then Frieza would have creamed him. . Your points are all over the place, it's difficult to know what you are implying. So now Vegeta is less than Freeza. Freeza wasn't even powered up to 100% on first form. He did that @ the end. The way he was talking in the end, implies he was toying with Vegeta. Nit really as Freeza likes to take his time in torturing his opponents. This has been shown and idthink it would change suddenly. lol Well this basically confirms that you are trolling. You can't give me any supported reasons as to why Vegeta is less than half of Frieza's power. I shouldn't of even taken the bait to begin with. lol
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~~Squall Strife~~	Sep 13 2016, 04:17 AM Post #55
Posts: 1,188 Group: Suspended Member #13,373 Joined: July 12, 2016 Gender Male	Well that's a pov. Freeza has been shown to power up while transforming. So there's that. Well. I could say the same to you. The way that you couldn't show any evidence to back up your points really didn't convince me. Had you shown evidence to suplort your claim it would have been viable, I would have agreed but there was nothing to show tbh. lol Edited by Squall Strife, Sep 13 2016, 04:18 AM.
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ryan1227	Sep 13 2016, 04:20 AM Post #56
Posts: 502 Group: Member Member #13,168 Joined: May 21, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Vegeta would've noticed a change in ki, instead he just mocked Freeza when he blew off his armor. Blowing off his armor was all it was implied to be, and nothing more. Edited by ryan1227, Sep 13 2016, 04:20 AM.



~~Squall Strife~~	Sep 13 2016, 04:24 AM Post #57
Posts: 1,188 Group: Suspended Member #13,373 Joined: July 12, 2016 Gender Male	Except even if Freeza did hold back, Vegeta could have still potentially have won so there's that. lol
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Sep 13 2016, 01:15 PM Post #58
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	I find it hard to believe that Vegeta is unaware of Freeza's battle power of 530,000. Surely he wouldn't be confident he has a chance against Freeza in a transformed state if he's less than half as strong as Freeza's first form. Honestly, I'm not sure why anyone clings to the 250,000 reading provided by the V-Jump. Vegeta says specifically that his power was continuing to rise after his battle with Recoome, so his power could have exceeded 250,000 by the time Freeza showed up. Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Sep 13 2016, 01:16 PM.
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+ Son-Goku	Sep 13 2016, 05:56 PM Post #59
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Sep 13 2016, 01:15 PM I find it hard to believe that Vegeta is unaware of Freeza's battle power of 530,000. Surely he wouldn't be confident he has a chance against Freeza in a transformed state if he's less than half as strong as Freeza's first form. Honestly, I'm not sure why anyone clings to the 250,000 reading provided by the V-Jump. Vegeta says specifically that his power was continuing to rise after his battle with Recoome, so his power could have exceeded 250,000 by the time Freeza showed up. I use 250,000, but that's the level I give Vegeta while fighting Jeice. After Vegeta is fully rested and his Zenkai reaches a stable level I give him 500,000. Edited by Son-Goku, Sep 13 2016, 05:57 PM.
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~~Squall Strife~~	Sep 13 2016, 09:37 PM Post #60
Posts: 1,188 Group: Suspended Member #13,373 Joined: July 12, 2016 Gender Male	Well, it's viable to use & doesn't contradict the manga. I'm also fine with whatever you users have, it's your pl list after all. lol
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