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Ssj goku and piccolo android arc vs ssj vegeta and trunks; Could piccolo and goku pull this win off?
Topic Started: Sep 7 2016, 07:42 AM (2,396 Views)
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Lazuli
Sep 8 2016, 03:08 AM
Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 02:58 AM
I don't understand what you mean by attitude but am sorry if your feelings are damage in some way.
I'm not saying you, or I, or anyone else has an (aggressive/angry) attitude. I don't think you're being upset, or annoyed, and you thinking I am is just you not seeing that I'm laughing out of the side of my face.

When I'm talking about your "attitude", I'm talking about your approach to this discussion, which I don't know how I can better make you understand than once again say: it's the way you're trying to change the rules to suit you at every turn.
Well am not gone repeat what I said like 10times. Can't type much right now because am eating. And I understand your point of view and opinion. Everything's good 😌

And if you guy's want continue feel free to lol.

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The op is from that user, and the user made the title clear in one of the users posts.


Meta Coola First Repair was about to hit ssj Vegeta, when Goku stopped him in mid transmission. If he could stop someone while in IT, than he could def. charge up a kamehameha & IT to ssj Vegeta. ssj Vegeta can't predict this because he's never seen Goku charge up an kamehameha & IT ,except in the Cell Games but that's way after.

A kamehameha from Goku can def beat Vegeta. Meta Coola was just too above in power for Goku to use a kamehameha on him.

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Sep 8 2016, 03:15 AM
I think this resembles an appeal to ignorance, but maybe that's just me.
That wasn't call for. everyone is calm down then you come out of no were to calling someone ignorant. I'll just report that its cool
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Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 03:22 AM
Pyrus
Sep 8 2016, 03:15 AM
I think this resembles an appeal to ignorance, but maybe that's just me.
That wasn't call for. everyone is calm down then you come out of no were to calling someone ignorant. I'll just report that its cool
He's referring to a fallacy, not saying that you are personally ignorant.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/ignorant.html
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Calling someone ignorant is not an ad hominem if it's simply an observable fact, and an argument from ignorance is a logical fallacy.

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You're going to have to explain this to me, man. I'm not getting it.
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Sep 8 2016, 03:24 AM
Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 03:22 AM
Pyrus
Sep 8 2016, 03:15 AM
I think this resembles an appeal to ignorance, but maybe that's just me.
That wasn't call for. everyone is calm down then you come out of no were to calling someone ignorant. I'll just report that its cool
He's referring to a fallacy, not saying that you are personally ignorant.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/ignorant.html
He said ignorant to me before that comment. So who else he referring to. like I said its cool
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Sep 8 2016, 03:26 AM
Calling someone ignorant is not an ad hominem if it's simply an observable fact, and an argument from ignorance is a logical fallacy.

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You're going to have to explain this to me, man. I'm not getting it.
That's disrespectful at the very least. All that person has to say is I don't agree with you or just give his own opinion. Ignorant is not called for at all.

Plus tiny said get back on topic which he didn't follow.
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Sep 8 2016, 03:26 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 03:24 AM
Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 03:22 AM
Pyrus
Sep 8 2016, 03:15 AM
I think this resembles an appeal to ignorance, but maybe that's just me.
That wasn't call for. everyone is calm down then you come out of no were to calling someone ignorant. I'll just report that its cool
He's referring to a fallacy, not saying that you are personally ignorant.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/ignorant.html
He said ignorant to me before that comment. So who else he referring to. like I said its cool
What your argument was beforehand was ignorant (seriously, claiming Goku would "stomp" Vegeta is nothing but wrong), and I'm not going to apologize for pointing that out. However, I'm not calling you ignorant, at least not at the moment. My last post was in reference to the logical fallacy, Appeal to Ignorance, which some others were gracious enough to make note of. In this case, yes, it appears you are arguing from a lack of evidence against Goku being able to use the IT Kamehameha, which is an unusual claim to make.
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Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 03:26 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 03:24 AM
Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 03:22 AM
Pyrus
Sep 8 2016, 03:15 AM
I think this resembles an appeal to ignorance, but maybe that's just me.
That wasn't call for. everyone is calm down then you come out of no were to calling someone ignorant. I'll just report that its cool
He's referring to a fallacy, not saying that you are personally ignorant.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/ignorant.html
He said ignorant to me before that comment. So who else he referring to. like I said its cool
If you think ignorant is bad, you should see some of the things he's called me. <_<
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Sep 8 2016, 03:29 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 03:26 AM
SuperSaiyan2
Sep 8 2016, 03:24 AM
Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 03:22 AM
Pyrus
Sep 8 2016, 03:15 AM
I think this resembles an appeal to ignorance, but maybe that's just me.
That wasn't call for. everyone is calm down then you come out of no were to calling someone ignorant. I'll just report that its cool
He's referring to a fallacy, not saying that you are personally ignorant.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/ignorant.html
He said ignorant to me before that comment. So who else he referring to. like I said its cool
What your argument was beforehand was ignorant (seriously, claiming Goku would "stomp" Vegeta is nothing but wrong), and I'm not going to apologize for pointing that out. However, I'm not calling you ignorant, at least not at the moment. My last post was in reference to the logical fallacy, Appeal to Ignorance, which some others were gracious enough to make note of. In this case, yes, it appears you are arguing from a lack of evidence against Goku being able to use the IT Kamehameha, which is an unusual claim to make.
I don't care what you thought was ignorant. that's not called for at all. I'm a person that don't agree with you that's ok. Don't go calling someone any type of name.
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Sep 8 2016, 03:31 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 03:26 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 03:24 AM
Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 03:22 AM
Pyrus
Sep 8 2016, 03:15 AM
I think this resembles an appeal to ignorance, but maybe that's just me.
That wasn't call for. everyone is calm down then you come out of no were to calling someone ignorant. I'll just report that its cool
He's referring to a fallacy, not saying that you are personally ignorant.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/ignorant.html
He said ignorant to me before that comment. So who else he referring to. like I said its cool
If you think ignorant is bad, you should see some of the things he's called me. <_<
I'm sure his your friend. But I don't know him at all. So there for he not gone come at me any type of way.
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Sep 8 2016, 03:32 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 03:29 AM
Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 03:26 AM
SuperSaiyan2
Sep 8 2016, 03:24 AM
Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 03:22 AM
Pyrus
Sep 8 2016, 03:15 AM
I think this resembles an appeal to ignorance, but maybe that's just me.
That wasn't call for. everyone is calm down then you come out of no were to calling someone ignorant. I'll just report that its cool
He's referring to a fallacy, not saying that you are personally ignorant.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/ignorant.html
He said ignorant to me before that comment. So who else he referring to. like I said its cool
What your argument was beforehand was ignorant (seriously, claiming Goku would "stomp" Vegeta is nothing but wrong), and I'm not going to apologize for pointing that out. However, I'm not calling you ignorant, at least not at the moment. My last post was in reference to the logical fallacy, Appeal to Ignorance, which some others were gracious enough to make note of. In this case, yes, it appears you are arguing from a lack of evidence against Goku being able to use the IT Kamehameha, which is an unusual claim to make.
I don't care what you thought was ignorant. that's not called for at all. I'm a person don't agree with you that's ok. Don't go calling someone any type of name.
So basically use G-rated words that will never possibly offend anyone and probably won't get the same point across?
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Sep 8 2016, 03:34 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 03:31 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 03:26 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 03:24 AM
Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 03:22 AM
Pyrus
Sep 8 2016, 03:15 AM
I think this resembles an appeal to ignorance, but maybe that's just me.
That wasn't call for. everyone is calm down then you come out of no were to calling someone ignorant. I'll just report that its cool
He's referring to a fallacy, not saying that you are personally ignorant.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/ignorant.html
He said ignorant to me before that comment. So who else he referring to. like I said its cool
If you think ignorant is bad, you should see some of the things he's called me. <_<
I'm sure his your friend. But I don't know him at all. So there for he not gone come at me any type of way.
No, we despise each other equally.
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Yeah, I just glanced over the few pages to this thread, and what the hell is going on?


On topic - My numbers for the beginning of the Android arc

SSj Vegeta - 340
SSj Goku - 320
SSj Trunks - 280
Piccolo - 260

Vegeta should have a slight edge over Goku, based off of Piccolo's statements. If those two fought, I could see Vegeta pulling out a win after a good struggle, if he stays level-headed. Goku is Goku though, and he definitely could still take this.

This would leave Piccolo to fight Trunks. I don't have huge gaps between all 4 guys here. I'd like to make the argument that Piccolo has a chance against Trunks. The young Super Saiyan is disposed of by No. 17 just as easily as Piccolo, but we have Vegeta getting absolutely pummeled, so I have a bigger gap between Trunks and Vegeta than I do for Piccolo and Trunks. I personally never found Trunks that impressive, he makes rookie mistakes, Cell even calls him out on this. Piccolo has shown himself to be a very competent fighter, and his skills and experience should help mask the power difference between him a Trunks in this fight, I'd call it a toss up.

I'm speculating and dragging on, sorry. I'd say if Vegeta could beat Goku fast enough then Trunks and Piccolo would still be fighting each other and Vegeta could finish it.
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Sep 8 2016, 03:34 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 03:32 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 03:29 AM
Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 03:26 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 03:24 AM
Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 03:22 AM
Pyrus
Sep 8 2016, 03:15 AM
I think this resembles an appeal to ignorance, but maybe that's just me.
That wasn't call for. everyone is calm down then you come out of no were to calling someone ignorant. I'll just report that its cool
He's referring to a fallacy, not saying that you are personally ignorant.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/ignorant.html
He said ignorant to me before that comment. So who else he referring to. like I said its cool
What your argument was beforehand was ignorant (seriously, claiming Goku would "stomp" Vegeta is nothing but wrong), and I'm not going to apologize for pointing that out. However, I'm not calling you ignorant, at least not at the moment. My last post was in reference to the logical fallacy, Appeal to Ignorance, which some others were gracious enough to make note of. In this case, yes, it appears you are arguing from a lack of evidence against Goku being able to use the IT Kamehameha, which is an unusual claim to make.
I don't care what you thought was ignorant. that's not called for at all. I'm a person don't agree with you that's ok. Don't go calling someone any type of name.
So basically use G-rated words that will never possibly offend anyone and probably won't get the same point across?
Calling someone ignorant is a insult. If you gone act like that towards someone then leave this topic. there's no point to add to the fire especially if I haven't disrespect you.
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