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Ssj goku and piccolo android arc vs ssj vegeta and trunks; Could piccolo and goku pull this win off?
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You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.
We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
So Vegeta could do the Big Bang Attack and the Final Flash all along?
 Namek.
Bah gawd, JR! You found the Starting Flash!
If am not mistaken he never called it the final flash neither was it stated Exactly, which means nothing suggests he could do it before his RoSaT trip, just like nothing suggests Goku could do the IT-Kamehameha combo.
The Kamehameha takes time to charge, especially if it's packing power. Goku has to carry that energy with him through the IT, which seems like it wouldn't be a simple thing to achieve.
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You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.
We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
So Vegeta could do the Big Bang Attack and the Final Flash all along?
Maybe he could nothing suggest he can't. Final flash he can't because we never seen him once used that ability. With goku we seen him used kamehameha and IT so we know he has it. So that's not the same at all sorry
We never saw Goku use the Instant Transmission Kamehameha before fighting Cell either. That's a combination of two techniques, not just doing both separately. Nothing suggest he can't he has both of the abilities so why not? vegeta on the other hand was never stated to have master or gain the ability final flash against in the android arc.
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Sep 8 2016, 02:22 AM
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You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.
We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
So Vegeta could do the Big Bang Attack and the Final Flash all along?
 Namek.
Bah gawd, JR! You found the Starting Flash!
If am not mistaken he never called it the final flash neither was it stated
Exactly, which means nothing suggests he could do it before his RoSaT trip, just like nothing suggests Goku could do the IT-Kamehameha combo. The Kamehameha takes time to charge, especially if it's packing power. Goku has to carry that energy with him through the IT, which seems like it wouldn't be a simple thing to achieve. All ye really need is focus and a bit of ki. The only way IT would drain a lot of ki is if he used it a whole lot.
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Sep 8 2016, 02:23 AM
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You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.
We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
So Vegeta could do the Big Bang Attack and the Final Flash all along?
 Namek.
Bah gawd, JR! You found the Starting Flash!
If am not mistaken he never called it the final flash neither was it stated
Exactly, which means nothing suggests he could do it before his RoSaT trip, just like nothing suggests Goku could do the IT-Kamehameha combo. The Kamehameha takes time to charge, especially if it's packing power. Goku has to carry that energy with him through the IT, which seems like it wouldn't be a simple thing to achieve.
All ye really need is focus and a bit of ki. The only way IT would drain a lot of ki is if he used it a whole lot. For IT, yes. Using IT while charging a kamehemaha and moving that energy with you is a different discussion.
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Well the thread jist says ssj Goku. It wasn't specific. ssj Goku M6 did know how to fight while IT really well. And Meta Coola was above the androids & Goku is still below the androids in the movie yet he kept up with 1st repair Meta Coola & knocked him away mid transmission.
So if Goku can charge up a kamehameha & it to ssj Vegeta, then ssj Goku is going to win.
Also, Piccolo & Goku is enough to handle ssj Trunks.
So Goku wins if this is M6 ssj Goku. lol
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You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.
We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
So Vegeta could do the Big Bang Attack and the Final Flash all along?
 Namek.
Bah gawd, JR! You found the Starting Flash!
If am not mistaken he never called it the final flash neither was it stated
Exactly, which means nothing suggests he could do it before his RoSaT trip, just like nothing suggests Goku could do the IT-Kamehameha combo. The Kamehameha takes time to charge, especially if it's packing power. Goku has to carry that energy with him through the IT, which seems like it wouldn't be a simple thing to achieve.
All ye really need is focus and a bit of ki. The only way IT would drain a lot of ki is if he used it a whole lot.
For IT, yes. Using IT while charging a kamehemaha and moving that energy with you is a different discussion. Yeah it's very debatable but it's most definitely possible.
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Sep 8 2016, 02:26 AM
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You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.
We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
So Vegeta could do the Big Bang Attack and the Final Flash all along?
Maybe he could nothing suggest he can't. Final flash he can't because we never seen him once used that ability. With goku we seen him used kamehameha and IT so we know he has it. So that's not the same at all sorry
We never saw Goku use the Instant Transmission Kamehameha before fighting Cell either. That's a combination of two techniques, not just doing both separately.
Nothing suggest he can't he has both of the abilities so why not? vegeta on the other hand was never stated to have master or gain the ability final flash against in the android arc.
You don't see how that's the same concept?
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- Sep 8 2016, 02:24 AM
Well the thread jist says ssj Goku. It wasn't specific. ssj Goku M6 did know how to fight while IT really well. And Meta Coola was above the androids & Goku is still below the androids in the movie yet he kept up with 1st repair Meta Coola & knocked him away mid transmission.
So if Goku can charge up a kamehameha & it to ssj Vegeta, then ssj Goku is going to win.
Also, Piccolo & Goku is enough to handle ssj Trunks.
So Goku wins if this is M6 ssj Goku. lol
Assume it's the original source material being used by default unless otherwise stated. Usually people don't assume it's video game SSj Goku if there's nothing specified.
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You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.
We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
So Vegeta could do the Big Bang Attack and the Final Flash all along?
 Namek.
Bah gawd, JR! You found the Starting Flash!
If am not mistaken he never called it the final flash neither was it stated
Exactly, which means nothing suggests he could do it before his RoSaT trip, just like nothing suggests Goku could do the IT-Kamehameha combo. The Kamehameha takes time to charge, especially if it's packing power. Goku has to carry that energy with him through the IT, which seems like it wouldn't be a simple thing to achieve.
All ye really need is focus and a bit of ki. The only way IT would drain a lot of ki is if he used it a whole lot.
For IT, yes. Using IT while charging a kamehemaha and moving that energy with you is a different discussion.
Yeah it's very debatable but it's most definitely possible. It's possible, but there's no proof he can so the logical conclusion is to assume he can't.
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Well the thread jist says ssj Goku. It wasn't specific. ssj Goku M6 did know how to fight while IT really well. And Meta Coola was above the androids & Goku is still below the androids in the movie yet he kept up with 1st repair Meta Coola & knocked him away mid transmission.
So if Goku can charge up a kamehameha & it to ssj Vegeta, then ssj Goku is going to win.
Also, Piccolo & Goku is enough to handle ssj Trunks.
So Goku wins if this is M6 ssj Goku. lol Jesus, son. I've seen a few of your discussions before, and I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you really just throw whatever elements in to the discussion you fancy, coming up with the most outlandish justifications to get your own way.
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Ssj goku and piccolo android arc vs ssj vegeta and trunks Sure, it's pretty poor Englsh, but it's not hard to decipher what the poster is getting at here.
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You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.
We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
So Vegeta could do the Big Bang Attack and the Final Flash all along?
Maybe he could nothing suggest he can't. Final flash he can't because we never seen him once used that ability. With goku we seen him used kamehameha and IT so we know he has it. So that's not the same at all sorry
We never saw Goku use the Instant Transmission Kamehameha before fighting Cell either. That's a combination of two techniques, not just doing both separately.
Nothing suggest he can't he has both of the abilities so why not? vegeta on the other hand was never stated to have master or gain the ability final flash against in the android arc.
You don't see how that's the same concept? - Squall Strife
- Sep 8 2016, 02:24 AM
Well the thread jist says ssj Goku. It wasn't specific. ssj Goku M6 did know how to fight while IT really well. And Meta Coola was above the androids & Goku is still below the androids in the movie yet he kept up with 1st repair Meta Coola & knocked him away mid transmission.
So if Goku can charge up a kamehameha & it to ssj Vegeta, then ssj Goku is going to win.
Also, Piccolo & Goku is enough to handle ssj Trunks.
So Goku wins if this is M6 ssj Goku. lol
Assume it's the original source material being used by default unless otherwise stated. Usually people don't assume it's video game SSj Goku if there's nothing specified. This is everyone on one the top of they game beginning android arc including the movies.
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Well the thread jist says ssj Goku. It wasn't specific. ssj Goku M6 did know how to fight while IT really well. And Meta Coola was above the androids & Goku is still below the androids in the movie yet he kept up with 1st repair Meta Coola & knocked him away mid transmission.
So if Goku can charge up a kamehameha & it to ssj Vegeta, then ssj Goku is going to win.
Also, Piccolo & Goku is enough to handle ssj Trunks.
So GokuW wins if this is M6 ssj Goku. lol
Jesus, son. I've seen a few of your discussions before, and I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you really just throw whatever elements in to the discussion you fancy, coming up with the most outlandish justifications to get your own way. - Title
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Ssj goku and piccolo android arc vs ssj vegeta and trunks
Sure, it's pretty poor Englsh, but it's not hard to decipher what the poster is getting at here. What do you mean to get my own way😂😂😂😂. I have no favorite character just saying. I like piccolo and vegeta better then goku but i go off they power levels and abilities. And there's no wayI could fit that in the topic because then it will be to long.
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This is everyone on one the top of they game beginning android arc including the movies. Oh, bugger off. Now you're doing it.
You clearly started this thread talking about android arc Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, and Piccolo, but now it might help you get your way the movie versions are included?
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A lot people get mad about opinions on this site. If some one don't agree with you and you can't get them to it's ok. We all have our point of views. Some may be wrong but that's ok lol. This honestly can go all day. I'm going to go eat something. Y'all welcome to continue 😀
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A lot people get mad about opinions on this site. If some one don't agree to you and you can't get them it's ok. We all have our point of views. Some may be wrong but that's ok lol. That's debating, bro.
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A lot people get mad about opinions on this site. If some one don't agree to you and you can't get them it's ok. We all have our point of views. Some may be wrong but that's ok lol.
That's debating, bro. Yeah I know lol. Some people just take it so serous.
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