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Ssj goku and piccolo android arc vs ssj vegeta and trunks; Could piccolo and goku pull this win off?
Topic Started: Sep 7 2016, 07:42 AM (2,399 Views)
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If we're playing the in-character game then Goku doesn't start at full power or drops his guard/shows mercy if he's close to victory, ultimately leading to a loss anyway.
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Lazuli
Sep 8 2016, 02:02 AM
You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.

We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
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Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 02:09 AM
Lazuli
Sep 8 2016, 02:02 AM
You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.

We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
So Vegeta could do the Big Bang Attack and the Final Flash all along?
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Sep 8 2016, 02:08 AM
If we're playing the in-character game then Goku doesn't start at full power or drops his guard/shows mercy if he's close to victory, ultimately leading to a loss anyway.
He show mercy once his enemy is no longer a threat to him. The blast don't have to necessarily kill him. But it will most definitely put him down for the count.
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Sep 8 2016, 02:09 AM
Lazuli
Sep 8 2016, 02:02 AM
You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.

We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
Yes, but if you want him to use it at this point in time, you're going to have to prove he can use it at this point in time. Something you can't do.

Pyrus, Hashbrowns, and myself are all presenting different, equally valid points as to why you're wrong about everything you put in Goku's favour. I'm sorry, but you're wrong.
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Sep 8 2016, 02:11 AM
Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 02:09 AM
Lazuli
Sep 8 2016, 02:02 AM
You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.

We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
So Vegeta could do the Big Bang Attack and the Final Flash all along?
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Sep 8 2016, 02:12 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 02:11 AM
Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 02:09 AM
Lazuli
Sep 8 2016, 02:02 AM
You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.

We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
So Vegeta could do the Big Bang Attack and the Final Flash all along?
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Bah gawd, JR! You found the Starting Flash!
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Sep 8 2016, 02:11 AM
Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 02:09 AM
Lazuli
Sep 8 2016, 02:02 AM
You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.

We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
So Vegeta could do the Big Bang Attack and the Final Flash all along?
Maybe he could nothing suggest he can't. Final flash he can't because we never seen him once used that ability. With goku we seen him used kamehameha and IT so we know he has it. So that's not the same at all sorry
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Sep 8 2016, 02:11 AM
Mr. Hashbrowns
Sep 8 2016, 02:08 AM
If we're playing the in-character game then Goku doesn't start at full power or drops his guard/shows mercy if he's close to victory, ultimately leading to a loss anyway.
He show mercy once his enemy is no longer a threat to him. The blast don't have to necessarily kill him. But it will most definitely put him down for the count.
Raditz wasn't down for the count when Goku showed him mercy and look how that worked out. Golden Freeza wasn't down for the count and look how that worked out.

Honestly you're grasping to keep Goku and Piccolo in it at this point.
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Sep 8 2016, 02:13 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 02:12 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 02:11 AM
Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 02:09 AM
Lazuli
Sep 8 2016, 02:02 AM
You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.

We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
So Vegeta could do the Big Bang Attack and the Final Flash all along?
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Bah gawd, JR! You found the Starting Flash!
It's clearly the prototype.
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Sep 8 2016, 02:13 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 02:12 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 02:11 AM
Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 02:09 AM
Lazuli
Sep 8 2016, 02:02 AM
You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.

We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
So Vegeta could do the Big Bang Attack and the Final Flash all along?
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Namek.
Bah gawd, JR! You found the Starting Flash!
If am not mistaken he never called it the final flash neither was it stated
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Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 02:14 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 02:11 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 02:09 AM
Lazuli
Sep 8 2016, 02:02 AM
You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.

We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
So Vegeta could do the Big Bang Attack and the Final Flash all along?
Maybe he could nothing suggest he can't. Final flash he can't because we never seen him once used that ability. With goku we seen him used kamehameha and IT so we know he has it. So that's not the same at all sorry
We never saw Goku use the Instant Transmission Kamehameha before fighting Cell either. That's a combination of two techniques, not just doing both separately.
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Sep 8 2016, 02:12 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 02:09 AM
Lazuli
Sep 8 2016, 02:02 AM
You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.

We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
Yes, but if you want him to use it at this point in time, you're going to have to prove he can use it at this point in time. Something you can't do.

Pyrus, Hashbrowns, and myself are all presenting different, equally valid points as to why you're wrong about everything you put in Goku's favour. I'm sorry, but you're wrong.
Lol You can have 10 people behind you that still don't make your point right. It's nothing more then a opinion. Just like am giving me opinion. So nah your wrong
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He's not wrong when he's factually correct.
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Amerson26
Sep 8 2016, 02:18 AM
Lazuli
Sep 8 2016, 02:12 AM
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Sep 8 2016, 02:09 AM
Lazuli
Sep 8 2016, 02:02 AM
You're also supposing Goku can use the Instant Transmission/Kamehameha combo at this point. Just because he has both techniques doesn't mean he can yet use them together.

We only know it's something he can do after his training in the RoSaT, and, again, this ability didn't seem help him beat Vegeta on his ones.
Nothing suggest he can't. He could had been able to do this when he first came back to earth. Just never actually had a chance to do so.
Yes, but if you want him to use it at this point in time, you're going to have to prove he can use it at this point in time. Something you can't do.

Pyrus, Hashbrowns, and myself are all presenting different, equally valid points as to why you're wrong about everything you put in Goku's favour. I'm sorry, but you're wrong.
Lol You can have 10 people behind you that still don't make your point right. It's nothing more then a opinion. Just like am giving me opinion. So nah your wrong
Your opinion is being founded on top of a bunch of speculation, though. Out-of-character speculation at that, since Goku has never started a fight with his best technique, even against the deadliest of opponents.
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