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Team 1 vs Team 2; Who wins?
Topic Started: Sep 6 2016, 03:09 AM (1,230 Views)
ryan1227
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Here's how I imagine it to go down:

- 17 fights with Piccolo
- 18 and Cell fight with the Super Saiyans
- Coola death beams the humans into oblivion
- One of the Super Saiyans could go out and destroy 19 and 20 before they try anything, but this would leave only two Super Saiyans to fight 18 and Cell for a few seconds.
- Coola could possibly teleport behind enemies and get cheap shots on them, or team up with 17 or 18.
- Cell, if he feels like it, uses Taiyoken to blind everyone temporarily, and then lands several hits on the Super Saiyans. The Androids wouldn't have ki to be sensed, so the Saiyans or Piccolo couldn't fight them while blinded.
- The Saiyans go down soon enough, and they all team up on Piccolo.
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Mr. Hashbrowns
Sep 6 2016, 04:22 AM
Amerson26
Sep 6 2016, 04:19 AM
Mr. Hashbrowns
Sep 6 2016, 04:16 AM
ryan1227
Sep 6 2016, 04:11 AM
It doesn't matter too much if Tenshinhan tries to hit anyone with a Kikoho when Coola would move far too fast for him to even react to. He'd die in an instant. And if Cell uses Taiyoken, he could have a chance to land several blows on the Super Saiyans.
I completely forgot about Cooler having Instant Transmission. Chalk up yet another advantage to team 2.
So does goku
IT needs a ki source and there's only two enemies Goku can lock onto: Cell and Cooler. He sure as hell doesn't want Cell and Cooler can hang with Goku just fine.
He can lock on his team ki that's already close by the androids
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Amerson26
Sep 6 2016, 04:27 AM
Mr. Hashbrowns
Sep 6 2016, 04:22 AM
Amerson26
Sep 6 2016, 04:19 AM
Mr. Hashbrowns
Sep 6 2016, 04:16 AM
ryan1227
Sep 6 2016, 04:11 AM
It doesn't matter too much if Tenshinhan tries to hit anyone with a Kikoho when Coola would move far too fast for him to even react to. He'd die in an instant. And if Cell uses Taiyoken, he could have a chance to land several blows on the Super Saiyans.
I completely forgot about Cooler having Instant Transmission. Chalk up yet another advantage to team 2.
So does goku
IT needs a ki source and there's only two enemies Goku can lock onto: Cell and Cooler. He sure as hell doesn't want Cell and Cooler can hang with Goku just fine.
He can lock on his team ki that's already close by the androids
17 and/or 18 will kick Goku's a***. IT'ing to their location would do more harm than good.
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ryan1227
Sep 6 2016, 04:26 AM
Here's how I imagine it to go down:

- 17 fights with Piccolo
- 18 and Cell fight with the Super Saiyans
- Coola death beams the humans into oblivion
- One of the Super Saiyans could go out and destroy 19 and 20 before they try anything, but this would leave only two Super Saiyans to fight 18 and Cell for a few seconds.
- Coola could possibly teleport behind enemies and get cheap shots on them, or team up with 17 or 18.
- Cell, if he feels like it, uses Taiyoken to blind everyone temporarily, and then lands several hits on the Super Saiyans. The Androids wouldn't have ki to be sensed, so the Saiyans or Piccolo couldn't fight them while blinded.
- The Saiyans go down soon enough, and they all team up on Piccolo.
Not exactly goku stop cooler in IT before he can do it again
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Amerson26
Sep 6 2016, 04:29 AM
ryan1227
Sep 6 2016, 04:26 AM
Here's how I imagine it to go down:

- 17 fights with Piccolo
- 18 and Cell fight with the Super Saiyans
- Coola death beams the humans into oblivion
- One of the Super Saiyans could go out and destroy 19 and 20 before they try anything, but this would leave only two Super Saiyans to fight 18 and Cell for a few seconds.
- Coola could possibly teleport behind enemies and get cheap shots on them, or team up with 17 or 18.
- Cell, if he feels like it, uses Taiyoken to blind everyone temporarily, and then lands several hits on the Super Saiyans. The Androids wouldn't have ki to be sensed, so the Saiyans or Piccolo couldn't fight them while blinded.
- The Saiyans go down soon enough, and they all team up on Piccolo.
Not exactly goku stop cooler in IT before he can do it again
If Goku teleports away, that leaves Team 1 only two Super Saiyans to fight against Cell and 18, which would even for a few seconds do a lot of harm.
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ryan1227
Sep 6 2016, 04:31 AM
Amerson26
Sep 6 2016, 04:29 AM
ryan1227
Sep 6 2016, 04:26 AM
Here's how I imagine it to go down:

- 17 fights with Piccolo
- 18 and Cell fight with the Super Saiyans
- Coola death beams the humans into oblivion
- One of the Super Saiyans could go out and destroy 19 and 20 before they try anything, but this would leave only two Super Saiyans to fight 18 and Cell for a few seconds.
- Coola could possibly teleport behind enemies and get cheap shots on them, or team up with 17 or 18.
- Cell, if he feels like it, uses Taiyoken to blind everyone temporarily, and then lands several hits on the Super Saiyans. The Androids wouldn't have ki to be sensed, so the Saiyans or Piccolo couldn't fight them while blinded.
- The Saiyans go down soon enough, and they all team up on Piccolo.
Not exactly goku stop cooler in IT before he can do it again
If Goku teleports away, that leaves Team 1 only two Super Saiyans to fight against Cell and 18, which would even for a few seconds do a lot of harm.
Goku can do IT and blast cell away and that leave 18 and cooler
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Team 1 can't win this. They have no advantage except for a hypothetical Shin Kikoho, and that's not likely to even come into play. Team 2 has:

- Two players (17 & 18) with infinite stamina, barriers, impeccable teamwork, and the most durable bodies.
- Two players (19 & 20) that can absorb any ki-based attack and become much stronger.
- Four players (all the droids) can't be sensed.
- One player (Cell) that can basically suck the life force from any living organism, and has all of Team 1's techniques in his arsenal save for Instant Transmission and the Big Bang Attack.
- One player (Cooler) with Instant Transmission.

I can't fathom how Team 2 would lose this. Krillin and Tenshinhan are 99% non-factors. The androids, Cell, and Cooler have far more in their favor than the Saiyans and Piccolo.
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Amerson26
Sep 6 2016, 04:33 AM
ryan1227
Sep 6 2016, 04:31 AM
Amerson26
Sep 6 2016, 04:29 AM
ryan1227
Sep 6 2016, 04:26 AM
Here's how I imagine it to go down:

- 17 fights with Piccolo
- 18 and Cell fight with the Super Saiyans
- Coola death beams the humans into oblivion
- One of the Super Saiyans could go out and destroy 19 and 20 before they try anything, but this would leave only two Super Saiyans to fight 18 and Cell for a few seconds.
- Coola could possibly teleport behind enemies and get cheap shots on them, or team up with 17 or 18.
- Cell, if he feels like it, uses Taiyoken to blind everyone temporarily, and then lands several hits on the Super Saiyans. The Androids wouldn't have ki to be sensed, so the Saiyans or Piccolo couldn't fight them while blinded.
- The Saiyans go down soon enough, and they all team up on Piccolo.
Not exactly goku stop cooler in IT before he can do it again
If Goku teleports away, that leaves Team 1 only two Super Saiyans to fight against Cell and 18, which would even for a few seconds do a lot of harm.
Goku can do IT and blast cell away
Yeah that's not happening. Cell is comfortably above Goku.
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Cell is at least on par with Vegeta, although it's implied he's somewhat stronger. He's definitely not weak enough that Goku could zip in and blast him to shreds instantly.
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Cell's tail is also a huge advantage. I forgot about that. He could get one of the Saiyans while they're distracted and cripple one of their limbs, and at the same time grow in power.
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Piccolo's regeneration would also be a big disadvantage here IMO. If he has to regenerate even once, depending on how much of his body it is, he's going to be too weak to successfully fend of 17.

If it were to happen, of course.
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ssj Goku-310,000,000

Meta Cooler First Repair-500,000,000

ssj Goku was still keeping up with Meta Cooler, for some time, after his first repair with his IT.

17 &18 are def below Meta Cooler First Repair, plus they don't have IT.

Imperfect Cell Initial-350,000,000 Same with Cell. He would get IT blitzed.

Goku charges up a kamehameha IT & 17& 18 are basically beat.

Same with Cell.

So Team 1 wins if this is just meta cooler initial taken into account. lol








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What's is your proof that 1st repair Metal Coola is stronger than 17/18? 17 would've wrecked Goku easily, and you make it sound as if Goku wasn't completely destroyed by Coola.
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At first, Metal Cooler is disposed of relatively quickly by Goku. But after he heals, he proceeds to stomp out both Goku AND Vegeta (with seemingly much more ease than 18 when she just took out Vegeta), and goes on to massacre a Piccolo that was explicitly stated to be fused. lol

Also, 17 said 18 would be in serious trouble if everyone decided to join in. lol
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I agree Team 1 is going to lose or at least they have a very very small chance of winning. Goku, Vegeta and Trunks as SSJ can probably manage to take on Cell, Cooler, 19 and 20. But, depending on how long that battle would take, one thing is for sure that they would definitely loose some power and stamina. But, even then 17 and 18 could take out Team 1 because their stamina or power won't drop.

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