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ssj2 Kid Gohan vs Pre RoSaT ssj Gotenks
Topic Started: Sep 3 2016, 07:52 PM (1,445 Views)
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Who wins? lol
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Gotenks easily. I personally estimate him to be stronger than both Fat Buu and SSJ3 Goku.
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Gotenks should be using his 10-15% for Gohan to stand a chance here, lol. a better thread should have been Base Gotenks vs SSJ2 Kid Gohan.
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Gotenks wins easily.
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Gotenks roflstomps. Piccolo described his ki as "incredible" after Boo wrecked someone stronger than Gohan and gave SSJ3 Goku a good fight. Nothing suggests he had any doubts about Gotenks' ability to destroy Boo.
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ssj Pre RoSaT Gotenks-9,000,000,000

Gotenks was stated to be inferior to Vegeta before he went into the RoSaT in the Daizenshuu, and he does nothing to prove otherwise here, so that's where I have him.

So Goku thought they had the potential to beat Buu. lol
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Sep 3 2016, 08:14 PM
ssj Pre RoSaT Gotenks-9,000,000,000

Gotenks was stated to be inferior to Vegeta before he went into the RoSaT in the Daizenshuu, and he does nothing to prove otherwise here, so that's where I have him.

So Goku thought they had the potential to beat Buu. lol
Piccolo had sensed SSJ3 Goku, SSJ2 Goku, SSJ2 Gohan (@Cell Games) and Majin Vegeta, and still remarked that SSJ Gotenks' ki was "incredible"... When you have people like SSJ3 Goku in that mix... it's kind of hard to put SSJ Gotenks as lower than Majin Vegeta, especially taking into account the only issue Piccolo had was potentially speed. Also taking into account that Majin Vegeta got trashed by Fat Boo and there was confidence in Gotenks taking out said Fat Boo. Having him weaker than Majin Vegeta is silly.

And on the topic of speed being an issue, SSJ Gotenks then goes to cross the planet multiple times within 29 minutes. Even getting in a nap while he waited for Piccolo to catch up. Taking into account Gotenks wasn't gassed by this, and played it off like it was nothing...
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Goku and Piccolo's statements > Daizenshuu.

Boo fought SSJ3 Goku and lolstomped Majin Vegeta. If SSJ Gotenks was weaker than the latter then Piccolo would not have been as calm as he was, and he certainly wouldn't call his ki "increadible" then move immediately to asking for a speed demonstration, as if lack of power wasn't an issue.
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He could just be remarking that they were incredible to him. These kids were less than Piccolo, even as ssjs.

Speed is synonymous to power in the case of Ginyu Force. We don't even know if Majin Vegeta can go around the Earth several times in that time span. All that is known, is that Piccolo can't keep up.

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Speed is synonymous to Power as in the case of the Ginyu Force.
Gotenks can blow himself up when needed. Piccolo def had that in mind as he saw Majin Vegeta do that.


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When Base Gotenks first formed, Piccolo was blunt and outright said that Gotenks was an idiot and there was no way he could beat Fat Boo. However when it was SSJ Gotenks, Piccolo was in total awe of his power and only questioned his speed, asking for a demonstration.

Pretty straightforward!
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Piccolo had in mind these kids were going to suicide blast?

Are you kidding me? That's ridiculous. These are kids. You're reaching incredibly far to keep Gotenks low. Wow, that's a first.
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He could just be remarking that they were incredible to him.


Who cares if he's incredible to Piccolo? The sole reason Gotenks exists is to beat Boo. Dwarfing Piccolo doesn't mean a damn thing.

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Speed is synonymous to power in the case of Ginyu Force. We don't even know if Majin Vegeta can go around the Earth several times in that time span. All that is known, is that Piccolo can't keep up.


Which is even more indicative of Gotenks' power if Piccolo is more concerned about speed.

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Gotenks can blow himself up when needed. Piccolo def had that in mind as he saw Majin Vegeta do that.


By your logic Gotenks is weaker than Vegeta, and Vegeta's suicide didn't kill Boo so that doesn't work, I'm afraid.
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Nothing else really needs to be said. Goku outright stated Gotenks would be stronger than him and Piccolo is outright impressed with him.

Gohan sure as hell isn't going to defeat Boo but all confidence was put on Gotenks.
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He could just be remarking that they were incredible to him.


Who cares if he's incredible to Piccolo? The sole reason Gotenks exists is to beat Boo. Dwarfing Piccolo doesn't mean a damn thing.

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Speed is synonymous to power in the case of Ginyu Force. We don't even know if Majin Vegeta can go around the Earth several times in that time span. All that is known, is that Piccolo can't keep up.


Which is even more indicative of Gotenks' power if Piccolo is more concerned about speed.

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Gotenks can blow himself up when needed. Piccolo def had that in mind as he saw Majin Vegeta do that.


By your logic Gotenks is weaker than Vegeta, and Vegeta's suicide didn't kill Boo so that doesn't work, I'm afraid.
If anything, if Piccolo expects Gotenks to do the exact same kind of blast Vegeta did, and expects it to work. Then that means Gotenks needs a stronger platform from which to do that. Which is admitting Gotenks is stronger than Vegeta anyway. Unless you want to argue the kids have higher amp techniques than Vegeta and are thus better ki manipulators than he is. But they're just kids...
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He could just be remarking that they were incredible to him. These kids were less than Piccolo, even as ssjs.

Nobody shares that belief with you, so I don't think it's going to matter here.
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Speed is synonymous to power in the case of Ginyu Force.

Could you elaborate? We saw Goku was faster than Ginyu, despite a 30,000 power level difference. Burter was faster than his teammates, despite all of them being about equal with each other. Piccolo believed he was still faster than 3rd Form Freeza (before they fought), despite only being moderately advantaged over 2nd Form Freeza. Gohan thought he could outrun Fat Boo, despite already stating Boo was a lot stronger than him.
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We don't even know if Majin Vegeta can go around the Earth several times in that time span. All that is known, is that Piccolo can't keep up.

Right, we don't know, and thus we can't simply assume. That's a logical fallacy.
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Gotenks can blow himself up when needed. Piccolo def had that in mind as he saw Majin Vegeta do that.

That's exactly what he didn't want to happen again. This is the most obvious sign that you're trolling, dude. A large majority of this forum believes Gotenks is at least on par with Fat Boo, just as a large majority of us believe statements until they're contradicted. That Daizenshuu entry means nothing here.

I'm not trying to be a ballbag to ya, just giving you friendly advice before your thread(s) get locked.
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