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Saiyan Saga Krillin's Destructo Disk (Canon wise) vs...
Topic Started: Aug 31 2016, 05:25 PM (2,474 Views)
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...what? So because every character doesn't use the Kienzan, that must mean it can't cut through anything? I guess I never thought of it that way. I always looked at the fact that it's not a completely viable attack. After all, it's been dodged each time it's been used, whereas the Kamehameha hasn't.
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Sep 1 2016, 08:59 PM
...what? So because every character doesn't use the Kienzan, that must mean it can't cut through anything? I guess I never thought of it that way. I always looked at the fact that it's not a completely viable attack. After all, it's been dodged each time it's been used, whereas the Kamehameha hasn't.
Why else do you think he stopped using it? :rofl:
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Do you think a Saiyan Saga Krillin's kienzan can go through any degree of kamehameha.....like a ssjb kaio-ken ×20 Goku charged kamehameha....


because a kamehameha falls in the category of anything.


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What an annoying type of person, who wants to use more and more stupid argument to proof that he says true. Just like people who believe Tien>Kuririn. Anyway, Kienzan was stated to cut through any character despite the difference in power level and it was never contradicted. By the way, there is a difference between contensated energy with huge impact force behind it and solid body.

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So nobody wants to answer if saiyan saga krillin's kienzan can go through a kaio-ken x20 ssjb Goku charged kamehameha.

Also btw, you misquoted. It says the kienzan can cut through anything, not just characters.

When a kienzan can't go through a kamehameha that's when the quote contradicts itself. lol
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If the Kienzan is said to be capable of cutting anything, then it can cut a Kamehameha.

Although a beam of pure energy isn't a solid, stationary object like a person, so your argument is irrelevant anyway.
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An identical/slightly enhanced move fked up Frieza pretty good

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Sep 2 2016, 03:30 PM
If the Kienzan is said to be capable of cutting anything, then it can cut a Kamehameha.

Although a beam of pure energy isn't a solid, stationary object like a person, so your argument is irrelevant anyway.
Not really. A kamehameha is in the category of anything. So if you take that quote literally, you also take Saiyan Saga Krillin's Kienzan can cut through kaioken×20 ssjb Goku charged kamehameha.


The point that you made is actually irrelevant as the quote says Kienzan can cut through anything. It doesn't say it can cut through solid matter only.



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Okay then. The Kienzan can cut through anything, including a kaioken×20 ssjb Goku charged kamehameha.
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This isn't Neoseeker. If you can't do this properly, I have no time to waste on you. Good day, mate.
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You left that general with just a kienzan.I wrote Saiyan Saga Krillin's Kienzan. Can a Saiyan Saga Krillin's Kienzan go through a kaio-ken x20 ssjb Goku chrsged kamehameha.


And if it does, it contradicts the manga. lol
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If the quote says the Kienzan can cut through anything then that means it can cut through anything. The version of Krillin doesn't matter.

You're arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.
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I see no reason why it wouldn't cut through a Kamehameha.
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The kienzan is made up of ki regardless. When that ki has more ki than a higher ki attack, that's when the point gets nullified.


To say that Saiyan Saga Keinzan is more powerful than kaio-ken ssjb Goku charged Kamehameha contradicts in that the Krillin infused ki kienzan has more power(ki) to cut through Goku's kamehameha wave(ki) which is def not true. It contradicts. lol
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If you are person which says that cutting through something is equal to being powerful than something then there is no point to talking with you. Knife is able to cut through your body. However, your body is much more powerful than knife. For example a knife with a speed of 10 m/s is much weaker than a body of a 60 kg male with the same speed. If you can't understand that then maybe you should not discuss with people? Now you are repeating the same phrase, which was already proven to be false, only to come on top on discussion which you already lost. Kienzan was always dodged, kienzan always cut through enemy much stronger than the user. Provide me with a single instance, when Kienzan was blocked, tanked etc. In manga. I don't take anime fillers with Perfect Cell or Gohan SSJ 2. If attacks are nullified by stronger ones, as you said. Then why Goku Kahemahemha was not instantly destroyed by Galick Ho? If your rule would be true, then beam struggles would not exist in this series.


But you are awesome. You are pro. After all you find word anything then you can stick to it. Then you might ask if Kienzan can cut through light or antimatter, or black hole. After all, they are anything, right? But they are not solid matter. The same way, Kahemahameha from your awesome SSJB Goku is not going to destroy Black Hole. So it is useless, isn't it?
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