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Evolution
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Dankness Lava	Sep 4 2016, 04:31 AM Post #76
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	SSj4 Gotenks Sep 4 2016, 03:48 AM Shining Light Sep 3 2016, 05:06 AM OFG Sep 2 2016, 09:07 PM Quote: I'm not gonna say he works in myserious though. I'm gonna say he's the creator and it would be weak for him not to have the ability to do such stuff. He's not a man, after all, he created man. That argument can only go so far. When you start saying things like "God used mind-control on every animal on the planet to get them onto a teeny tiny boat" it gets ridiculous. If God really did have all the power in the universe, events wouldn't have occurred the same way, we wouldn't be in the same position we are today, and the Bible would be written entirely different. There are so many contradictions throughout the Bible; at some points God seems all-powerful, at others he definitely isn't. As far as the ark story is concerned, I ask again: Why couldn't God have simultaneously killed every man, woman, and child on the planet with the exception of Noah's family rather than magicking them inside a tiny boat for 40 days and 40 nights? You could argue that God was just "testing" Noah, but again, that's a cop-out answer. I feel like we could go in circles here. What events are you talking about? The flood itself, for example? No, not really. Humanity had turned totally wicked, and so Elohim had to do something about it. But do note that it says Noah saw grace in the eyes of Elohim. Then you might bring up the story of Adam and Eve and how Elohim let them fall. Well, he did give them free will to either do what was commanded of them, or disobey him. But here's the catch: The reason he told them not to eat of its fruit was because it would actually be detrimental to them. Why make the tree at all? That's something I'll have to meditate on. But if you're referring to outside the bible then I guess that was a waste lol. Still keeping it there. How do you picture the Bible being written then? When is Elohim depicted as less powerful? What method would've been better to wipe humanity away? Just instantly killing? That would've required him to actually look upon humanity again, which would've ruined his ultimate goal. 1. If you believe in Elohim, you believe in Gods (two God), right? Father & Son or Father & Mother? Do you in God the mother? 2. The explanation (original sin that Adam and Eve) from the bible makes no sense, we are punished not for our sins (our actions or deeds that we do), not even for our fathers sins, but according to bible we're punished for Adam and Eve's sin because they disobeyed God when they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. So from my understanding, pre-Adam & Eve sin, the salvation is God's word (eat the fruit, and surely you'll die, don't eat from the tree and you'll live) and the reason for God's punishment is disobedience. According to the bible in new testament Matthew, Luke, John, the only way to receive salvation and forgiveness of our sins is through the new covenant which is bread and wine that Jesus broke representing the Passover of the new covenant. In summary through Jesus Christ. Here is my problem(s) with that^ 1. Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” = KJV "I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things." = NIV According to God himself or herself, he/she is reasonable for people or countries that are rich and people or countries that are poor and the disasters or evil. So if God himself/herself claims that he/she is reasonable, then why is there inequality throughout human history and God is still called all good and loving? Why can't God be good and evil if he/she is all powerful and more powerful than Satan? And if repentance is so important, then why allow so many unborn babies die each year before receiving their birth cert.? Where is there opportunity to repent? Why allow so many non-believers = atheists to be so rich (Rockefeller, Gates, Escobar, Dawkins, Seth MacFarlane) if one of the passage in the bible says you can't do anything without God? If you ask what does that have to do with God... credibility! If the bible says you cannot do anything without God, and if we see people doing well for themselves with the knowledge of God, then what does that say about the passage in the bible? Also, if God want us to follow Moses Law in the ancient times which one of the laws says "do not commit murder", then why have Moses tell the Israelites to [stone] homosexuals, children who disobey their parents and stone people who don't follow God's law in Sabbath and Tabernacle? So my question at the end for you is, if God allowed (will) human beings to write the bible, did God intend it to have so many errors concerning moral values of rape, murder against homo, naughty children, slavery, inaccurate description about disease and medicine? You may say, God never intended those things, then Human beings have made a huge mistake in interpreting Gods will. Don't you think so? Please reply, i'm interested in what you say. Thanks That's an inaccurate depiction of Elohim. Here's why: Elohim made Adam in his image. Eve came from Adam, meaning she was once inside him. Adam was once male and female, if Adam was created in the image of the creator, that must mean He too possesses the qualities of man and woman. Why else would Eve be able to exist? You gotta make the connections. We're punished for our sins, yes, but we're also punished for Adam and Eve sinning because it sparked the fall of man and was the cause of man sinning. Here's my thing about the passover: Is it something we all need to be doing now, or is it something that was done a couple of times in preparation for something major? As far as I'm aware those are the only two times passover was an essential meal and event. Did it happen throughout the Bible? Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken. (Oh btw it also happened in the old testament.) Yes, he forms the light and creates darkness. Is darkness not simply the absence of light? Same with good and evil. Is evil not just the absence of good? "Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof." Matthew 6:34 Those people were being stoned because the Israelites were God's chosen people; sin wasn't allowed to enter the door. No other group of people is ordered to do as such. You should elaborate on the tidbits about slavery and disease and medicine. Where is the mistake? Edited by Dankness Lava, Sep 4 2016, 04:36 AM.



Zoom	Sep 4 2016, 08:15 AM Post #77
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	Quote: That's an inaccurate depiction of Elohim. Here's why: Elohim made Adam in his image. Eve came from Adam, meaning she was once inside him. Adam was once male and female, if Adam was created in the image of the creator, that must mean He too possesses the qualities of man and woman. Why else would Eve be able to exist? I think you have misunderstood or there might be a communication error on my end. Elohim is the Hebrew word for Gods = Plural used here. The singular forms are El and Eloa. But Moses wrote about God as Elohim, meaning Gods.. To know what any word means, we need to observe how it is used. We need to note whether the word is used as a noun, verb, pronoun, or adverb. The bible has many examples of God saying let US. Genesis 1:26-27: God said, "Let us make man in our image, our likeness, so God created man in his image, in the image of God he created them. Genesis 11:1-7: If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. "Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.” Isaiah 6:8: Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?” So this is why I'm asking you, are you referring to Elohim as the trinity (Father, Son and holy spirit) or saying there is father (male) and mother (female) because throughout the bible, the word father is used many times, so if you're referring to Elohim as Gods and accept God as the father is used, then what about Mother? Also are you referring to the bride as the church (Revelations 22:17)? Quote: You gotta make the connections. We're punished for our sins, yes, but we're also punished for Adam and Eve sinning because it sparked the fall of man and was the cause of man sinning. Do you not understand my point or question? If you are unsure please say so, because I don't want this to be a long reply to reply and reply thread of going nowhere and miscommunication. I know the bible says we are punished because Adam and Eve ate the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil that God forbid them not to eat with the punishment being death (it's under the fall of men in Genesis 2:16-17). Read this: John 3:16-18 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. Romans 3:21-25 But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. I'm asking is it God's will to have over 15 thousand unborn babies (without receiving a birth cert.) and 3 million newborns, die each year (fact in today's age) without having the chance to hear about the good news (scripture = bible) or repent? What if you're born in North Korea under Fat Majin Buu's rule? Do you not get the logic in that? According to the bible our sins are severe that it warrants death, but the only way to be cleansed and be saved is through Jesus and accepting Jesus that he died and removed the sins and repenting. If you read the bible, the ones that doesn't accept Jesus won't have life and will perish in hell. Do you see the flaw in this logic when you take everything literally? Also, God promised to save those who have the Passover, why didn't God help the Christians when they were persecuted by Emperor Nero? How many died? How many died under the inquisition, 50 million? Or what about God in the O.T giving the laws to Moses through the burning bush which the first two laws says; 1. You shall have no other gods before me. 2. You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments. So God chose the Jews to be his holy children, so the Greeks, Romans, Persians, Assyrians and the Egyptians are gentiles, created by God also, right? But for some reason God in the O.T chose the Jews to be his people (God of Israel, God of Jacob, etc...) and let others Greeks, Romans, Persians, Assyrians and the Egyptians to worship something else and have all the power and money at that time and destroy Jerusalem. Are you saying even though God of Israel created the gentiles, God left them to worship Zeus, Sun Gods, pagans traditions, but God later choose to punish them and their future generations because they are breaking God's law. Strange logic there. If you're saying God didn't let them, then where is the evidence? Because in the bible is only talking to the Jews in the O.T. It wasn't until later Jesus defined the new word of being a Jew and it doesn't have to do with geography. Even today, government cannot fine you for speeding unless they are speed signs warning you to slow down or you will be a fine. So where is the evidence that in the O.T God warned the gentiles not to worship false gods? Egyptians were very good at keeping history, can you show me any proof? You remember Isaiah 45:7 where the Lord says he will bring prosperity and disasters? Now if you add 1 Samuel 2:6 "The Lord brings death and makes alive; he brings down to the grave and raises up, "the Lord sends poverty and wealth; he humbles and he exalts". ^do you understand what i'm getting at? 1. How accurate are those scriptures about Isaiah, Samuel etc..? 2. Do you take the bible as literal word of God? 3. ^ if you say yes to both, then you're proven wrong by history itself or do you believe God wants the Africans to be taken as slaves and have their countries torn apart, and have the Jewish people kicked out from many nations, with the aid of gentile nations (Britain and US among others) to help The Israeli Declaration of Independence in 1948. http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-richest-countries-in-the-world.html http://www.forbes.com/sites/ranisingh/2015/11/08/new-study-finds-a-better-way-to-measure-the-worlds-richest-countries/#396a8e316b82 http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/#version:static ^ so did God want gentiles like Bill Gates to be so rich or what about Wang Jianlin who is Chinese who got nothing to do with tribes of Israel or Sheldon Adelson who is invested in Casinos which is a dirty vice according to the bible. Quote: Here's my thing about the passover: Is it something we all need to be doing now, or is it something that was done a couple of times in preparation for something major? As far as I'm aware those are the only two times passover was an essential meal and event. Did it happen throughout the Bible? Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken. Have you read the entire bible or just verses? Salvation in the new and old testament evolves around blood and flesh of Jesus. If you're a Christian, you should be baptized first then receive the Passover. The Passover originated in the O.T in the days of Jacob where the Jewish (Hebrews) were mistreated as slaves for 400 years. (Gensis: 15: 13). The oppression became serve (Exodus: 1:12-14). So God send Moses to ask, but later when the Pharaoh broke the promise, Yahweh/Jehovah released the plagues and only sparring those who received the Passover. Old Testament: Exodus: 12:13 The blood will be a sign for you on the houses where you are, and when I see the blood, I will pass over you. No destructive plague will touch you when I strike Egypt. = NIV. And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt. = KJV. Exodus 12:29 At midnight the Lord struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well. 30 Pharaoh and all his officials and all the Egyptians got up during the night, and there was loud wailing in Egypt, for there was not a house without someone dead. Exodus 12: 31-33 I'm too lazy to write it... Exodus 12: 1-14 I'm too lazy to write it... New testament: Luke 22:7-20 I'm too lazy to write it... John 6:53 I'm too lazy to write it... John 6:47-51 I'm too lazy to write it... John 6: 53-58 I'm too lazy to write it... John 6: 52 I'm too lazy to write it... Matthew 26: 17-28 I'm too lazy to write it... 1 Corinthians 11:23-26 I'm too lazy to write it... 1 Corinthians 5:7-8 I'm too lazy to write it... Hebrews 9: 15 I'm too lazy to write it... Romans 8: 1-2 I'm too lazy to write it... Matthew 24: 37-39 I'm too lazy to write it... Quote: Yes, he forms the light and creates darkness. Is darkness not simply the absence of light? Same with good and evil. Is evil not just the absence of good? "Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof." Matthew 6:34 Those people were being stoned because the Israelites were God's chosen people; sin wasn't allowed to enter the door. No other group of people is ordered to do as such. Yeah, how can you say darkness is the absence of light when God declared responsibility for both good and evil? So, I don't understand your meaning, are you saying God removed his evil self? Like The Presence and Great Evil Beast? Quote: You should elaborate on the tidbits about slavery and disease and medicine. Where is the mistake? I'll do that later, too lazy atm. But along the lines of telling slaves to serve their masters like they are serving Jesus and raping their daughters an instead of angels. Genesis 19:1-11 The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. 2 “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.” “No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.” Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.” Deuteronomy 22:28-29 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. ^ this could have easily been fixed by God saying don't allow rape in the first place. God's will in the bible or men? or humans made a huge error in interpreting Gods will. If you say that's Gods will, i'll never join a church like that. Ephesians 6:9 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free. And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him. Where is God's will ^? So the bible doesn't specifically condemn the practice of slavery, but just teaches how the slaves should treat their masters and vice versa, right? Do you really think God will is allowing slavery in the first place when Jesus could have easily told his disciples that slavery is bad? or stoning people because they are homo or not cleansed is ridiculous? Because if God created all life on earth that means he created sheep and lions who practiced homo behaviors. Actually around 10-15% of all animals on earth have practiced this. How many of Christians stone their children or want to stone homo? Majority of people that are religious don't follow the O.T, they only use the O.T to testified about the N.T and want to follow in Jesus teachings. @Sam Sorry, but are you going to reply to my question in the previous thread? Edited by Zoom, Sep 5 2016, 12:01 AM.



* Ketchup Revenge	Sep 4 2016, 01:04 PM Post #78
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	Shining Light Sep 3 2016, 04:31 PM What are you getting at? That in order for him to be deemed as all powerful he has to be destroying galaxies? That's silly. Is creating the universe not good enough? Besides, that would be contradictory to his nature. He doesn't destroy for the sake of destroying. Also, you mentioned earlier how he only took one day for the stars but way more days for earth. Um... that's wrong. In fact, I have a theory for this. The time in which he made the stuff in the universe is before the evening and morning passes. @Darker give some scripture please, thanks Genesis states it: Quote: Genesis 1:14-19 14) Then God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years; 15) and let them be for lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth"; and it was so. 16) God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also. 17) God placed them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18) and to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness; and God saw that it was good. 19) There was evening and there was morning, a fourth day. It says he took one day... but this passage is also scientifically inaccurate because it calls the moon a light; which it isn't. It reflects light from the sun, which is the first light being referenced here. And to say you have a theory about it is complete postulation. It gives no evidence for this, yet you guess it's true. This is exactly what I was talking about. Believers in Genesis and the Judeo Christian God inflate the power we see from him in the literal depiction in order to accommodate what we know now about the Universe. And I didn't say that God needs to destroy galaxies to be considered powerful, all I said is that there's no testament to his power outside a biblical flood. There's nothing mentioned at all about what we now know about the complicated processes that take place outside the immediate vicinity of Earth. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Sep 4 2016, 05:12 PM.
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Dankness Lava	Sep 5 2016, 09:54 PM Post #79
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	I'll get to you later Gotenks. In fact i bet you can teach me more about the bible. You clearly know it better than me, but trust me, i have not just read little verses here and there. I've read Genesis, Exodus, some Revelation, the four gospels, and probably at least one or two more. @ketchup revenge Yes, it says he created the lesser light which is obviously the moon. But the moon acts as a light, does it not? That wasn't my full theory, sorry for the confusion. But anyway what version of the Bible is that that you quote from? And what do you mean they inflate his power? What are some examples of this happening? Maybe they aren't mentioned because it isn't relevant? The whole story within the Bible is about Earth; anything outside of it is irrelevant. Edited by Dankness Lava, Sep 5 2016, 10:03 PM.



~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Sep 6 2016, 01:27 PM Post #80
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Just popping in real quick to respond to this comment by Shining Light: Quote: Is creating the universe not good enough? Nowhere in the bible does it state that god created the universe, nor did he create any planets aside from Earth. He created the earth and the heavens, plus some random stars that he put "in the heavens." That doesn't coincide with science and the universe as we know it today and reflects a lack of scientific knowledge on the part of whoever wrote the bible. If they had known that the universe was so expansive and included planets other than our own, they would have mentioned them; therefore, if the bible was written by man and inspired by god, wouldn't it be more scientifically accurate? If god is all-powerful and all-knowing, surely he wouldn't want his book to be so... dated.



Buuberries	Sep 6 2016, 09:29 PM Post #81
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	This went off topic again Hey, maybe we should start our own forum called off-topic lounge, or OTL for short, and have big off topic conversations.
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Sep 6 2016, 09:34 PM Post #82
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Yeah wtf, I didn't even know this was an evolution topic and haven't known for like the last three pages. To be fair, there's only so much you can say about evolution. It's like making a thread about volcanic eruptions or something.



Buuberries	Sep 6 2016, 09:36 PM Post #83
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	Wanna start a thread about volcanit eruptions?
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+ Son-Goku	Sep 6 2016, 09:40 PM Post #84
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	I thought this thread was dead the day after I made it. Wow this turned hectic.
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+ Sandy Shore	Sep 6 2016, 09:52 PM Post #85
Posts: 1,860 Group: Elite Member Member #12,337 Joined: May 18, 2015	Buuberries Sep 6 2016, 09:29 PM Hey, maybe we should start our own forum called off-topic lounge, or OTL for short, and have big off topic conversations. The problem with a concept like that is everyone there is sure to become really good friends. There's only so much you can say to really good friends.



Wolf	Sep 7 2016, 04:45 AM Post #86
Shadow Realm > Posts: 5,538 Group: Street Fighter Member #6,410 Joined: June 27, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country South Africa Favourite Anime Berserk What Browser do you use? 18+ Favourite Manga Berserk	I think you guys might be taking this too far. The argument here is really broken down to two different beliefs. Scientifically or religiously, each has their own seperate view on the matter. In my opinion, I don't think you can really deny the fact that evolution has occurred in certain species. Charles Darwin kind of already explained that. Whether we evolved from apes or not, we came from something. Everything did. Evolution is just a way for humans to rationalize where they came from and why we're here. A better insight on things I suppose.
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Buuberries	Sep 7 2016, 12:04 PM Post #87
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	Lazuli Sep 6 2016, 09:52 PM Buuberries Sep 6 2016, 09:29 PM Hey, maybe we should start our own forum called off-topic lounge, or OTL for short, and have big off topic conversations. The problem with a concept like that is everyone there is sure to become really good friends. There's only so much you can say to really good friends. Then we could have OTL meet-ups irl -- I bet those would be so fun.
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*Copy_Ninja*	Sep 7 2016, 12:11 PM Post #88
*Novacane for the pain* Posts: 8,033 Group: Guardian Member #6,499 Joined: July 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Hunter x Hunter (2011) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Monster, One Piece, Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist, Hunter X Hunter, Death Note, SnK	Deep discussion guys, try keep relatively on topic and serious enough yeah?
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Sep 7 2016, 02:32 PM Post #89
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Quote: Whether we evolved from apes or not, we came from something. Neither Charles Darwin nor his theory of evolution have ever stated that we came from apes.



~~Helvius Pertinax Augustus~~	Sep 8 2016, 06:17 PM Post #90
What will you do when you get old? Posts: 1,096 Group: Suspended Member #12,915 Joined: February 8, 2016 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Don't actually watch anime What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Don't read manga	Is evolution still considered a theory?



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