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| Darker | Sep 1 2016, 02:23 AM Post #16 |
The Lord of the Dark
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The concept of God is so flawed it's funny. "I'm an all powerful all knowledgeable shapeshifter who created a universe in the span of six days, but I will allow my beloved children and faithful subjects to die for me any day!" |
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| Political Piper | Sep 1 2016, 02:39 AM Post #17 |
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Yeah but what someone thinks is irrelevant when it comes to defining God's actions. Like I wrote in another post, trying to understand God is like trying to teach an ant Theoretical Physics. Just because something doesn't make sense to us personally, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense at all. Now I'm not advocating for religion, I'm just being Devil's Advocate and saying just because something doesn't make sense, doesn't mean it's not possible. Do you think people from a thousand years ago would believe that we would be able to see the world and communicate in an instant in the palm of our hand? They would laugh and say impossible, there is nothing that makes sense that could allow that to happen.. |
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| lazerbem | Sep 1 2016, 03:28 AM Post #18 |
 
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http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/10/28/pope-francis-comments-on-evolution-and-the-catholic-church The Pope seems to have no problem with it.
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| Darker | Sep 1 2016, 04:03 AM Post #19 |
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Wait what? |
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| + Son-Goku | Sep 1 2016, 04:09 AM Post #20 |
孫悟空
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Nvm
Edited by Son-Goku, Sep 1 2016, 04:09 AM.
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| Buuberries | Sep 1 2016, 09:28 AM Post #21 |
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It can be, but there's no evidence for it. It's as simple as that. Maybe some sort of god does exist and it uses evolution as its tool -- which is another topic itself since if a god were to exist, I doubt it'd be the Christian one -- but until there's evidence for it, integrating it into scientific theories would not make the theory falsifiable and it would violate Occam's razor. I agree with the part I underlined, but the difference with that analogy is that our knowledge and understanding of the world has increased exponentially compared to back then. In a thousand years if humans have colonised space or have been able to travel close to the speed of light -- those ideas to modern people aren't completely absurd. I'm not a physics buff so I have no idea if travelling close to the speed of light would ever be possible, but my point is that those ideas exist today as ideas and hypotheses which are being researched and tested, so if they do happen then it won't be a surprise. On the contrary, our knowledge of any sort of god hasn't increased in the slightest outside of rediscovering scriptures that can be translated and it's not something that can be falsified. tl;dr I'm not claiming that a god definitely doesn't exist because who knows if in a thousand years it just decides to pop its head down to Earth to say hi, but there isn't much to support its existence and there's no reason to integrate it into scientific theories. |
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| Ding | Sep 1 2016, 08:43 PM Post #22 |
 
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That's a weird history class. Evolution is one of the more ingenious parts of Gods creation. He gets to just sit back and watch it all unfold. 
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Sep 1 2016, 10:19 PM Post #23 |
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"
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I whole-heartedly believe in evolution, and whole-heartedly don't believe in god.... or at least not any literal depiction of one. In order to say "I don't believe in God", it first needs to be defined what God is. If we find out that a super advanced mortal inter-dimensional race of beings created our universe of which through random means, gave rise to man... would we consider them God? In other words, if it was discovered that the Christian God doesn't exist, but something that can be considered "God" does exist in his place, would Christians and other religious peoples accept this as truth? Given what we understand of the universe now, and what the Bible tells us about the Judeo-Christian god and all his different versions, I think we can fairly say that type of god has been repeatedly disproved. Christians, Jews, and Muslims seem to believe that their God exceeds his stated parameters simply because our understanding of the universe has rapidly expanded. They have a hard time accepting that their version of God is too small for the Universe as we know it now. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Sep 1 2016, 10:20 PM.
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| Ding | Sep 2 2016, 12:19 AM Post #24 |
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An infinite God is too small? I don't understand. |
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What will you do when you get old?
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The concept of God only covers this planet, so yes. Beneath the Earth is considered Hell, the Earth is generally accepted as a version of Purgatory, and Heaven is in the clouds/sky. There's no mention of other planets or parts of the Galaxy or universe in the Bible, so it'd be appropriate to call God a blip in the Universe. The universe itself isn't infinite or so scientists say, we just don't know where its borders lie because to humans it's immeasurably large. |
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| Dankness Lava | Sep 2 2016, 12:51 AM Post #26 |
Dankness Forever
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Where does the Bible says heaven is in the sky? |
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| + Steve | Sep 2 2016, 12:57 AM Post #27 |
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.
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Yeah I don't think anything can be infinite in this universe anyway because for anything to be infinite it needs infinite energy, which is impossible in a finite universe. Although it's God it can do anything in which case why worship it... Give me unlimited chicken nuggets that are always at perfect eating temperature and we'll talk worship. Really though I'm not sure why evolution is even debated, it clearly happens. We've witnessed changes in various species and there are differences even in our own, like that colony of people who've lived out at sea for hundreds of years and have far greater lung capacity than other people. Clearly they evolved over time to adapt to their environment, much like how there are different skin pigmentations for different levels of sunlight and such. I don't get why there's not just some cop out in religion like "Ahh God just told us words we didn't yet understand! He set evolution up, obviously! Like no duh evolution is real!" I just wonder what the thoughts of people who deny it are, aside from the stupid selection of people who genuinely believe there's no truth to it because God made banana's curved for us(except that he didn't) Like...do people of faith full well know it happened but don't want to admit that because then what else about their faith is wrong? Or do they just refuse to accept that there could be fault in Gods word or something? I don't get why, practically every God out there is written to have made mistakes. Christian God had to flood the whole planet for crying out loud, not an infallible dude by any means. |
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| Dankness Lava | Sep 2 2016, 01:11 AM Post #28 |
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Dankness Forever
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How do scientists go about finding the age of different species? Carbon dating? Can anyone provide links? @Darker I wonder where you got that image, of what God is, from Edited by Dankness Lava, Sep 2 2016, 01:19 AM.
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| + Pelador | Sep 2 2016, 01:17 AM Post #29 |
Crazy Awesome Legend
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To answer the question, yes they do carbon dating but that can only go back so far. Another way is to see which layer of sediment the fossil was found it. The Earth is a bit like an onion in that way. The further down you go, the older something is. And palaeontologists/geologists are experts at judging which layer corresponds to which era. I'm not going to provide any links because you can damn well do that yourself with very little effort. |
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| Dankness Lava | Sep 2 2016, 01:22 AM Post #30 |
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Dankness Forever
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So basically you're not really down to help me. Ok. Yeah I can look it up but I asked for a reason but no worries. |
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