Why is so little done about bullying?

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Why is so little done about bullying?
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+ Steve	Aug 25 2016, 02:39 AM Post #16
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	I agree that standing up for yourself is often the solution, having done it myself twice. But you can hardly say people "allow" themselves to be bullied. How does a tiny 8 year old kid "allow" their bigger, fatter classmate to bully them? They can't do shit against that without going overly violent. The idea would work there if everyone was the same physically but they're not. And standing up for yourself doesn't really do much for emotional bullying. I don't see why we should expect children to resolve these things on their own, they typically have no idea what they're doing...they are children. Adults that sit and watch are pathetic.
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~~Helvius Pertinax Augustus~~	Aug 25 2016, 02:46 AM Post #17
What will you do when you get old? Posts: 1,096 Group: Suspended Member #12,915 Joined: February 8, 2016 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Don't actually watch anime What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Don't read manga	Daemon Keido Aug 25 2016, 02:39 AM At the same time, it doesn't get solved by you nearly as often as you think it does. Many victims have tried what you did and end up getting bullied or hurt a helluva lot more. Then they should have tried harder.



+ Son-Goku	Aug 25 2016, 03:22 AM Post #18
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Jar-Jar Binks Aug 25 2016, 02:46 AM Daemon Keido Aug 25 2016, 02:39 AM At the same time, it doesn't get solved by you nearly as often as you think it does. Many victims have tried what you did and end up getting bullied or hurt a helluva lot more. Then they should have tried harder. Why would you want to cause and inflict more pain on others? If you no how it feels . . . I just don't understand.
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~~Helvius Pertinax Augustus~~	Aug 25 2016, 03:26 AM Post #19
What will you do when you get old? Posts: 1,096 Group: Suspended Member #12,915 Joined: February 8, 2016 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Don't actually watch anime What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Don't read manga	I've never been successfully bullied, because I was raised not to put up with it. I've never bullied anyone who wasn't a bully themselves. If they have no issue bullying those weaker than themselves, why should they take issue with me doing the same to them? After all, life is just survival of the fittest, and for every bad guy out there, there's someone even worse.



breaker335	Aug 25 2016, 03:31 AM Post #20
Posts: 879 Group: Member Member #13,278 Joined: June 5, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Jar-Jar Binks Aug 25 2016, 02:46 AM Daemon Keido Aug 25 2016, 02:39 AM At the same time, it doesn't get solved by you nearly as often as you think it does. Many victims have tried what you did and end up getting bullied or hurt a helluva lot more. Then they should have tried harder. Just because it worked for you doesn't mean it will work for everyone else. Some people work differently. Hell, maybe their friends my jump in at the point, making things even worse. It isn't always black and white. @OP: The victim could at least try to talk with a bully ask why he/she is doing it to them. A simple, "Hey man, I really don't like what you're doing to me. Even if you're just joking around, I don't really like it.", or something along the lines of that. And if they're reasonable enough, they should back off. And if not, then do what's usually suggested. Get an adult that'll actually listen and hope for the best.



+ Son-Goku	Aug 25 2016, 03:53 AM Post #21
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Jar-Jar Binks Aug 25 2016, 03:26 AM I've never been successfully bullied, because I was raised not to put up with it. I've never bullied anyone who wasn't a bully themselves. If they have no issue bullying those weaker than themselves, why should they take issue with me doing the same to them? After all, life is just survival of the fittest, and for every bad guy out there, there's someone even worse. It's sad that you see life that way. But I have no right to judge you.
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DanielSan	Aug 25 2016, 04:52 AM Post #22
Posts: 1,536 Group: Donator Member #5,730 Joined: February 14, 2011	Jar-Jar Binks Aug 25 2016, 02:34 AM Oh, I think it can be solved. It just can't be solved for you. You have to stop the person bullying you. I'd like to offer a few observations. Being bullied or not does have to deal with respect. To prevent being bully you need to have some levels of it. Though if you are then people should help. In the long run in order to prevent you need respect. Most people take a long time to understand what respect really is. With regards to my friends, I'd earn their respect by shooting a 3-pointer with ease or driving to school with a motorcycle. I'm not sure if many of you are simply naive on the subject. Am I to respect my friends based on their knowledge of the subjects I'm interested in or in general? This has to be considered. As many of us have weaknesses and strengths, and we can be respected in one field and looked down upon in another. In the general principle, respect is subjective. If I'm a sports guy, I may find it appealing that a friend of mine use to be in a pro sports league, if I don't like sports, I may brush this off as trivial. So think many of you need to look deep into what your meaning of respect is. Respect is earned. Being courteous and treating people with dignity does not correlate to respecting them, however you can always honor a person! To honor someone means to treat them how you want to be treated and that corresponds to treating them like a decent person. You may not respect some random guy, but you can still honor them. If people do this then bullying would be a thing of the past.



Wagwan	Aug 25 2016, 07:20 AM Post #23
Posts: 190 Group: Member Member #12,260 Joined: April 22, 2015	wtf Idk where dafuq you guys live and what its like there but here antibullying is shoved down ppl's throats I remember every week in highschool there were like anti-prejudice/bullying/hate/discrimination/judgement/literallyeverysynonym days where people would draw on themselves or wear dumb shit to "spread awareness" hell to even be eligible for each successive semester at my uni I literally (and I am not shitting you) have to fill out 4h worth of anonymous surveys and actual quizzes, watch countless videos, complete dozens of virtual scenario's Which is infuriating



Sam	Aug 25 2016, 07:48 AM Post #24
It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash. Posts: 24,391 Group: Community Admin Member #415 Joined: April 21, 2005 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z/Super, Hellsing Ultimate, Naruto/Shippuden, Death Note, Hunter x Hunter, FMA:B What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball/Z/Super, Naruto/Shippuden, One Piece, Hellsing, Death Note	Without this forum, I may have been dead because of bullying. I was beaten in Middle School repeatedly, and the teachers and the principal did nothing about it. Truthfully, though, this is how children are. I've since confronted these bullies in real life, and they have apologized and realized how awful they were to me. The scars are still real, as is the psychological damage. But, as hard as it is to say this... can anything really be done? Other than socially isolating your child? Teachers can be more vigilant and aware, sure, but, is that really enough? What about in my case where the teachers thought that 'A' students wouldn't bully me? Or that it was just a funny joke that we were all laughing at when they shook my desk and made fat jokes? Most bullies are hurt themselves. There are deeper issues that need to be addressed than the kids being jerks. Perhaps more intervention from school counseling will help, or perhaps this is simply trial by fire. Something unavoidable, a rite of passage in society. I've long struggled for an answer to bullying, and there is no right answer that covers every scenario. Or even a majority.
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* Mitas	Aug 25 2016, 09:58 AM Post #25
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	Jar-Jar Binks Aug 25 2016, 01:16 AM Committing suicide over someone bullying you is an act of cowardice. No, committing suicide is a symptom and result of mental health issues that bullying can bring on. Nobody in their right mind decides they want to commit suicide. Like Breaker said, it may be easy for you to say "just stand up for yourself", and in theory that's what everyone should do, but in reality everyone is different. We all have different life experiences and genes that make up who we are and shape how we are in life. It's good that you felt and feel confident enough in yourself that you could stand up for yourself, and can feel that way about people who don't, but it doesn't make them cowards. In regards to the topic, I haven't been in a school environment for a long time, but I echo Wagwan's sentiments in that I don't think things are as lax as you seem to think. There are a bunch of anti-bullying campaigns that I see in the news intermittently. My sister was also bullied by one girl and when my mum went to the school, the school took action and punished the girl and it all stopped. I don't think there's anyway to completely eradicate bullying; as sad as it is, there will always be drastic cases of people being driven to suicide by bullying. But to me it doesn't seem like 'little' is being done.
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Buuberries	Aug 25 2016, 10:33 AM Post #26
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	a lot of bullies i know either got beaten up themselves, got suspended or even expelled.
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* Yu Narukami	Aug 25 2016, 10:39 AM Post #27
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	I think it's important that schools are proactive too. If they provide an environment and services that make a person feel comfortable and able to open up and share their issues, perhaps many students wouldn't turn to bullying as a way of venting their emotions or feeling powerful. I'm willing to bet that in the vast majority of cases, there's some kind of underlying issue that leads a person to bully another. If we're able to catch those people before they start bullying, it would have a huge impact on the number of cases and would do a lot more to make the other students feel at ease. Once it's started, however, they need to be swift in their dealing with the situation. Punish the bully, but also ensure that they talk to teachers and school officials about why they're doing it. There's no point in throwing away any attempts to get at the underlying issues once the bullying has started, and the quicker they're able to do it, the better. Victims should also feel that they're able to confide with teachers and other people. The absolute worst thing you can do is focus solely on the bully because, left unchecked, the victim could get into a really bad state that could lead to some unfavourable situations.



~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Aug 25 2016, 01:17 PM Post #28
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Jar-Jar Binks Aug 25 2016, 01:16 AM I spent years fighting bullies in middle and high school, and the only way to deal with a bully is to become their bully. Become the thing they fear, the reason why they're afraid to leave the false sense of security they get when they stay home. Otherwise nothing will happen to them, only your family cares enough about you to do something and there's only so much they can do until it becomes your own fault for allowing yourself to get bullied. Committing suicide over someone bullying you is an act of cowardice. A lot of people have already responded to this, but I know from experience that we can never blame the victim for committing suicide. No matter how petty their pain may appear on the outside, an outsider's perception can never truly capture what the victim may actually be feeling. We can look down on someone who is bullied and say things like, "Man up, it isn't that bad. Fight for yourself. If you stand up against them, the bullies won't mess with you anymore." Thinking like this is flawed because 1) As an outsider, we don't know how bad the situation actually is. The victim could have tried relentlessly to make the bullying end. And 2) We don't know how the victim may feel. As for depression and suicide, people don't commit suicide as a cop-out, or because they're a coward, but because they literally can't cope with living anymore. Suicidal thoughts are not rational. A suicidal person doesn't reason through problems the same way that a non-suicidal person would. "Oh wait, I shouldn't do this because the problem always gets better" doesn't cross a suicidal person's mind. When you really want to kill yourself, pretty much nothing can stop you. That's why it's referred to as mental illness. Same with depression. You can't just "fix" depression or magically get happy. It's an illness. I've found that people who think the way that you do--people who have been through a rough situation, gotten through it, and now criticize those who can't--have a certain type of complex. What I mean by this is that they feel that their own pain is infinitely worse than others'. I've been guilty of this in the past too. When you go through a really rough time, it's often difficult to sympathize with others and see their pain as significant, or even more significant than your own. Edited by Doggo Champion 2k17, Aug 25 2016, 01:22 PM.



ZeldAlice	Oct 9 2016, 08:02 PM Post #29
Posts: 242 Group: Member Member #13,425 Joined: August 4, 2016 Gender Female Country Sweden	OFG Aug 25 2016, 01:17 PM Jar-Jar Binks Aug 25 2016, 01:16 AM I spent years fighting bullies in middle and high school, and the only way to deal with a bully is to become their bully. Become the thing they fear, the reason why they're afraid to leave the false sense of security they get when they stay home. Otherwise nothing will happen to them, only your family cares enough about you to do something and there's only so much they can do until it becomes your own fault for allowing yourself to get bullied. Committing suicide over someone bullying you is an act of cowardice. A lot of people have already responded to this, but I know from experience that we can never blame the victim for committing suicide. No matter how petty their pain may appear on the outside, an outsider's perception can never truly capture what the victim may actually be feeling. We can look down on someone who is bullied and say things like, "Man up, it isn't that bad. Fight for yourself. If you stand up against them, the bullies won't mess with you anymore." Thinking like this is flawed because 1) As an outsider, we don't know how bad the situation actually is. The victim could have tried relentlessly to make the bullying end. And 2) We don't know how the victim may feel. As for depression and suicide, people don't commit suicide as a cop-out, or because they're a coward, but because they literally can't cope with living anymore. Suicidal thoughts are not rational. A suicidal person doesn't reason through problems the same way that a non-suicidal person would. "Oh wait, I shouldn't do this because the problem always gets better" doesn't cross a suicidal person's mind. When you really want to kill yourself, pretty much nothing can stop you. That's why it's referred to as mental illness. Same with depression. You can't just "fix" depression or magically get happy. It's an illness. I've found that people who think the way that you do--people who have been through a rough situation, gotten through it, and now criticize those who can't--have a certain type of complex. What I mean by this is that they feel that their own pain is infinitely worse than others'. I've been guilty of this in the past too. When you go through a really rough time, it's often difficult to sympathize with others and see their pain as significant, or even more significant than your own. I couldn't agree more with all of this! And yes, many people may feel that their own pain is worse in the darkest hours etc BUT there are people in such dark hours that can sympathize with others pain, I am one of them. But when people say: "Oh, cheer up and find comfort in that there are people who has it alot worse than you." THAT is not right and things do actually not work that way. And to reply the actual topic, sadly bullying will forever exist. Why? Because many schools and teachers etc are too damn lazy to even care nor even see. That was my situation when I was bullied in all my school years, it kept on all the from kids school and up till I was a teen/youth even though it was made by different people. Sure it was not physical bullying, it was psychiological, and I won't argue that either of them is more damaging than the other. But I do can say that I still have those deep psychiological scars and they're still bleeding. I still have ghosts from the past still raging and haunting me inside my head. And then all my mental issues I have now, like deppression, anxiety etc (even though this society is a reason for it too). And you know what, it didn't matter if I stood up to myself, because then it only got worse as I tried to stand up for myself (which I actually did so many times) But yes, there are so often nowadays that I had wished that I actually was litterally fighting etc in school, but then I would be the culprit at the same time in this society's eyes. And also, I dunno if there are any Swedish people here but let me tell you one thing, in sweden there is a sort of an unwritten law which says that "you should not think nor be any more special etc than anyone else", I know this thing is so illogical and insane. There is a name for this kind of thing but I do not know the translation for it. But this thing was indeed a contributing factor or some sort. I dunno if this same thing exists in another country. And where I want to get from this, that is that people will allways find a reason to ridicule you, bully you etc as soon as they notice the tiniest abnormal etc thing in you, so does adults, they bully too. And that the people who bullied may have "just been kids" etc THAT is not an excuse. My last "so-called-psychiologist" used to say that. "They were just kids". TO HELL WITH THAT!!! Indeed, this all is not the way it should be, but still it is. And the adults, teachers etc?... Most of them refuse to do anything, nor have anything to do with it all and even refuse to see. That is the sad truth and sadly the way things is in this tragic, cold and miserable world... Edited by ZeldAlice, Oct 9 2016, 08:05 PM.



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